Emotional Underpinnings of Organised Real Militant Atheism

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Emotional Underpinnings of Organised Real Militant Atheism

Post by cronus » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:06 am

I blame the countless abuse scandals for what is coming. The rise of organised social forms on the web is a reflection of what will be in real life. If Islam as Isis formed out of the webs odds and sods then so will rise a new kind of brutal atheism. The language used here on and everywhere across the secular communities is more and more emotive. Aggression, sublimated for now, is on all atheist forums. A new power is rising. Us. And unlike Isis we have the smarts too. The doorway to the stars is over the bodies of lesser men. How many though? A few million? A hundred million? The billions? :nono:
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Post by cronus » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:26 am

One thing you do need. A name for a atheist rational secular state that has poetry. 'Caliphate' slides of the tongue and round the brains digestive tracts for meaning. Something similar and very different is required. How about Rationalia? The smallest of forums, the most disregarded of places. Home to a few kook's of rationalism/scepticism/atheism and a few aliens who seek only to observe and be overlooked. Yes, upon this name it will grow. :read:
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:40 am

No true rationalist would compare the one, true path with the abomination of Islam - so sayeth the righteous at Freethought Blogs.
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Re: Emotional Underpinnings of Organised Real Militant Athei

Post by cronus » Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:08 am

Brian Peacock wrote:No true rationalist would compare the one, true path with the abomination of Islam - so sayeth the righteous at Freethought Blogs.
Depends on how they see history. Many supposed rationalists are highly myopic and view present day issues as supreme. Some have models and hunches that go forward a few years and decades. When dealing with climate change which is a multi-century emergency a very rare sort of strategist is required. More akin to a religious leader and willing to accept the consequences on the present of that sort of forward looking. :read:
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Post by rainbow » Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:15 am

Scumple wrote:I blame the countless abuse scandals for what is coming. The rise of organised social forms on the web is a reflection of what will be in real life. If Islam as Isis formed out of the webs odds and sods then so will rise a new kind of brutal atheism. The language used here on and everywhere across the secular communities is more and more emotive. Aggression, sublimated for now, is on all atheist forums. A new power is rising. Us. And unlike Isis we have the smarts too. The doorway to the stars is over the bodies of lesser men. How many though? A few million? A hundred million? The billions? :nono:
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Post by cronus » Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:19 am

Chances are it will go wrong time after time before it's got right. The alternative is to slide gradually into a post industrial dark age with climate change wrecking any chance of a population/civilization recovery. It's a devils bargain. Take it or leave it and go back to dreaming. :read:
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Post by Tero » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:07 am

I keep getting told over and over that grannies nearly dead get offended by atheism. I tell them to go pray and get off the Internet.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:24 am

:lol:
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Post by cronus » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:37 am

When it gets rocky which with the indicators buzzing, especially the stockmarkets frontside, is soon, if secular rationalists don't assume charge you can be assured the default position will involve religion as a means of social control and you will be scapegoats as it all goes medieval. Organise and take the engine or someone else will. Organise now, there'll be little web if any after the coming socio-economic catastrophe. :read:

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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:33 pm

But sceptics/rationalists/atheists/freethinkers don't all come with the same shared range of coherent ideas or subscribe to an overall ideology. The 'herding cats' thing comes to mind.

I guess we look to A+ for leadership eh?
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Re: Emotional Underpinnings of Organised Real Militant Athei

Post by cronus » Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:40 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:But sceptics/rationalists/atheists/freethinkers don't all come with the same shared range of coherent ideas or subscribe to an overall ideology. The 'herding cats' thing comes to mind.

I guess we look to A+ for leadership eh?
People don't need much to bring them together...a flag, a name for the group umbrella and a few Hitchens standard orators. Thing is complacency will leave all these in the wrong hands. We've not much time. This is not a student rally style movement when we're talking of replacing the control structures of a society. We need people as bad-ass as they come or we won't win. Real life/death politics. Real risks it could go very wrong. Only for the brave here. No room for the naive.
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Post by Svartalf » Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:47 pm

Yeah, right, like Hitchens class orators are a dime a dozen...
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Post by cronus » Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:58 pm

Svartalf wrote:Yeah, right, like Hitchens class orators are a dime a dozen...
Yes, every spit'n'sawdust smokers bar holds at least two or three. It's getting them to orate what you want is the difficult part. For that you need your careful head on Svartalf and you've got that all the time. You could go far in the tail winds of this coming revolution. :read:
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Re: Emotional Underpinnings of Organised Real Militant Athei

Post by JimC » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:17 pm

I think we should force all religious people to wear a fluorescent triangle, with the symbol of their particular delusion embossed on the front.

Then, we confiscate all their property...

Then, we send them to the camps...

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Re: Emotional Underpinnings of Organised Real Militant Athei

Post by klr » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:19 pm

JimC wrote:I think we should force all religious people to wear a fluorescent triangle, with the symbol of their particular delusion embossed on the front.

Then, we confiscate all their property...

Then, we send them to the camps...

There will be a final solution to the evil that is religion...
You've been watching those history channels too much. :hehe:
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