Your clone takes over when you die. Is that you or not?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Proposed. Clones of you can be created. EVERYTHING that you experience is passed to the clone. When you pop off, the clone is activated. Except for apparent age your friend and lovers can't tell the difference.

Is that you, or is it a copy only?

[Rum]

Well if everything is passed on then it is you surely? I don't believe in some 'core' soul type thing which is the essence of you. We are the aggregation of it all. We are not the thinker but the thinking, not the listener but the listening.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Well if everything is passed on then it is you surely? I don't believe in some 'core' soul type thing which is the essence of you. We are the aggregation of it all. We are not the thinker but the thinking, not the listener but the listening.

A. E. van Vogt wrote a story about a guy who kept waking up in strange places. This would occur just after he was involved in a violent event. Turns out he had cloned himself and stashed the clones around the solar system so that he could continue on his mission. I read that in 1967 and I've been pondering this question since then.

I can hold two identical copies of a DVD in my hands, but if one is destroyed does that mean the other takes it place?

[Feck]

Proposed. Clones of you can be created. EVERYTHING that you experience is passed to the clone. When you pop off, the clone is activated. Except for apparent age your friend and lovers can't tell the difference.

Is that you, or is it a copy only?

Well the having a nice new body would change you but ,if for example if a machine could make Perfect copy of you but at the moment you and your copy leave the machine one is killed then It would make No difference if the original or the copy
was destroyed ,there would just be you not some diminished copy missing a soul .

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Proposed. Clones of you can be created. EVERYTHING that you experience is passed to the clone. When you pop off, the clone is activated. Except for apparent age your friend and lovers can't tell the difference.

Is that you, or is it a copy only?

Well the having a nice new body would change you but ,if for example if a machine could make Perfect copy of you but at the moment you and your copy leave the machine one is killed then It would make No difference if the original or the copy
was destroyed ,there would just be you not some diminished copy missing a soul .

That's where my uncertainty comes in. I'm not at all comfortable with the thought of a clone being "me" when it takes over. I have no reason to believe for or against such an event.

[Feck]

Ahh deep deep down you feel that you have a " soul "that there Must be more than the physical that makes Us Us ?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Ahh deep deep down you feel that you have a " soul "that there Must be more than the physical that makes Us Us ?

That's possible, but basically I just don't believe that system has been demonstrated to work, so I doubt.

[Feck]

Ahh deep deep down you feel that you have a " soul "that there Must be more than the physical that makes Us Us ?

That's possible, but basically I just don't believe that system has been demonstrated to work, so I doubt.

well I wouldn't be jumping at the chance to test that machine .

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Ahh deep deep down you feel that you have a " soul "that there Must be more than the physical that makes Us Us ?

That's possible, but basically I just don't believe that system has been demonstrated to work, so I doubt.

well I wouldn't be jumping at the chance to test that machine .

It would be the biggest "all in" bet of one's life.

[Feck]

At least you didn't ask me that last night when I was tripping ( I can trip and type didn't know that it would work)

[Gawdzilla Sama]

At least you didn't ask me that last night when I was tripping ( I can trip and type didn't know that it would work)

That was you? I thought your cat was doing a sock puppet.

[Thinking Aloud]

Proposed. Clones of you can be created. EVERYTHING that you experience is passed to the clone. When you pop off, the clone is activated. Except for apparent age your friend and lovers can't tell the difference.

Is that you, or is it a copy only?

It's a copy.

The consciousness that is you ceases, and another consciousness is activated in a different body. It has all your experiences yes, but the consciousness is new and separate.

(It's the same problem I've always had with the idea of teleportation - in my mind I can't get past the idea that the original is utterly destroyed, and a copy is built up from transmitted data. As far as the copy is concerned, it's still the same person, but as far as the original is concerned, it's annihilated.)

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Proposed. Clones of you can be created. EVERYTHING that you experience is passed to the clone. When you pop off, the clone is activated. Except for apparent age your friend and lovers can't tell the difference.

Is that you, or is it a copy only?

It's a copy.

The consciousness that is you ceases, and another consciousness is activated in a different body. It has all your experiences yes, but the consciousness is new and separate.

(It's the same problem I've always had with the idea of teleportation - in my mind I can't get past the idea that the original is utterly destroyed, and a copy is built up from transmitted data. As far as the copy is concerned, it's still the same person, but as far as the original is concerned, it's annihilated.)

Two of my issues with the process put succinctly. The copy is just a copy, not a continuation of the original.

[Feck]

I dunno about the word consciousness ,smells a bit like an ID version of soul ,'you' just make it all up anyway (consciousness that is) . If the original is gone and the exact copy does not even know it is a copy then It is just the same uninterrupted
stream of consciousness .Only an outside observer is aware that anything has changed Your copy would carry on as YOU

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I dunno about the word consciousness ,smells a bit like an ID version of soul ,'you' just make it all up anyway (consciousness that is) . If the original is gone and the exact copy does not even know it is a copy then It is just the same uninterrupted
stream of consciousness .Only an outside observer is aware that anything has changed Your copy would carry on as YOU

I refuse to let fear of "religious overtones" stifle my use of the English language. If I say "consciousness", then that's what I mean, not "God's little finger puppet."