Atheist's genocide.
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Atheist's genocide.
I have no time for the religious, the are a bunch of retarded fairy tale believing knobs, how stupid do you have to believe that the world 6,000 years old or something similar. Even the more intelligent ones war little more than children who need a big daddy in the sky to tell them what to do and how to live their life. Lunatics to a person. That being said is you want to kill humans on an industrial scale then you need atheism. The twentieth century showed use that atheism could match the body count of the last 2,000 years of religious in just one century. To stop people believing in god just takes them having expose to other points of view, this is not always effective but works in the long run. Now having people not falling for religion should be a good thing right. All those ho so critical thinkers means we will all embrace science and logic right.
Nah not really as we just end up will a bunch of asreholes who think just because they rejected the god hypothesis that they know everything and the rest of us should recognize their intellect and should bow down to their self righteous superiority. How many ex funnies are all too ready to embrace feminism and cultural Marxism rather than just show some critical thinking ability. sadly too few if the atheistic blogosphere is anything to go by. Being skeptical about gods is meaningless if you stop being skeptical about the atheistic leaders you choose to follow because they led you away from the celestial dictator in the sky. We have seen that it is oh so easy for atheists to unite under the flag of loud mouth idols and follow them without question. How quickly the Us vs Them tactic is deployed and censorship and free speech is illegal. Well not long as anybody that as been following current events should know. The die is already cased if you disagree with them then they will hound you on social media, doxx'ed you, try to get you sacked and case you as the most horrid person in the world. Whilst defending the most evil actions that are used against you on their say so.
You can't appease these monsters as you have to do what they say or apologize for being a bad person and for ever bow to them and still it will not be enough. So stop letting yourself be ashamed and stand you to these ideological fuckwits as they are intellectually bankrupt and just shallow wankers who rely on shaming tactics because they have no arguments. Either that or you can let them lead you to the gas chambers or shallow graves in the woods.
TL:DR: Atheists will still kill more than the religious because they are gullible stupid morons.
Nah not really as we just end up will a bunch of asreholes who think just because they rejected the god hypothesis that they know everything and the rest of us should recognize their intellect and should bow down to their self righteous superiority. How many ex funnies are all too ready to embrace feminism and cultural Marxism rather than just show some critical thinking ability. sadly too few if the atheistic blogosphere is anything to go by. Being skeptical about gods is meaningless if you stop being skeptical about the atheistic leaders you choose to follow because they led you away from the celestial dictator in the sky. We have seen that it is oh so easy for atheists to unite under the flag of loud mouth idols and follow them without question. How quickly the Us vs Them tactic is deployed and censorship and free speech is illegal. Well not long as anybody that as been following current events should know. The die is already cased if you disagree with them then they will hound you on social media, doxx'ed you, try to get you sacked and case you as the most horrid person in the world. Whilst defending the most evil actions that are used against you on their say so.
You can't appease these monsters as you have to do what they say or apologize for being a bad person and for ever bow to them and still it will not be enough. So stop letting yourself be ashamed and stand you to these ideological fuckwits as they are intellectually bankrupt and just shallow wankers who rely on shaming tactics because they have no arguments. Either that or you can let them lead you to the gas chambers or shallow graves in the woods.
TL:DR: Atheists will still kill more than the religious because they are gullible stupid morons.
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Re: Atheist's genocide.
Neither atheists nor theists kill people. The ones who do that are either very smart or very dumb people who 'consider' their situation, make their choices. The ones who fight for a righteous cause killing a few to save the many, they are of all kinds. And evil times snare men like fish in a net, to be on the safe side, in case the weak front of atheism turns theist. 

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Re: Atheist's genocide.
You missed a rather important point.
Religious nutters kill because of their religion; their particular sky fairy tells them to...
Some genocidal 20th century leaders were atheist, but they didn't kill for that reason, or to spread atheism; there is no evidence that their atheism was a causative factor in their murderous rampage.
Religious nutters kill because of their religion; their particular sky fairy tells them to...
Some genocidal 20th century leaders were atheist, but they didn't kill for that reason, or to spread atheism; there is no evidence that their atheism was a causative factor in their murderous rampage.
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Leader fallacy. Genocide comes from below. And so do religious memes. Germans were culturally Christian and although suppressed so were the Russians. Those who were 'thoughtful' atheists most likely also had a conscience and didn't take part in much killing I'd hazard a guess.JimC wrote:You missed a rather important point.
Religious nutters kill because of their religion; their particular sky fairy tells them to...
Some genocidal 20th century leaders were atheist, but they didn't kill for that reason, or to spread atheism; there is no evidence that their atheism was a causative factor in their murderous rampage.
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Whether from above or below, the point about motivation stands...Scumple wrote:Leader fallacy. Genocide comes from below. And so do religious memes. Germans were culturally Christian and although suppressed so were the Russians. Those who were 'thoughtful' atheists most likely also had a conscience and didn't take part in much killing I'd hazard a guess.JimC wrote:You missed a rather important point.
Religious nutters kill because of their religion; their particular sky fairy tells them to...
Some genocidal 20th century leaders were atheist, but they didn't kill for that reason, or to spread atheism; there is no evidence that their atheism was a causative factor in their murderous rampage.
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Maybe, but saying it like that makes us look suspect. Gotta make sure the mud is being slung the other way...it's a war of ideas or (not ideas).JimC wrote:Whether from above or below, the point about motivation stands...Scumple wrote:Leader fallacy. Genocide comes from below. And so do religious memes. Germans were culturally Christian and although suppressed so were the Russians. Those who were 'thoughtful' atheists most likely also had a conscience and didn't take part in much killing I'd hazard a guess.JimC wrote:You missed a rather important point.
Religious nutters kill because of their religion; their particular sky fairy tells them to...
Some genocidal 20th century leaders were atheist, but they didn't kill for that reason, or to spread atheism; there is no evidence that their atheism was a causative factor in their murderous rampage.
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Re: Atheist's genocide.
Fair point but does that help the dead.JimC wrote:You missed a rather important point.
Religious nutters kill because of their religion; their particular sky fairy tells them to...
Some genocidal 20th century leaders were atheist, but they didn't kill for that reason, or to spread atheism; there is no evidence that their atheism was a causative factor in their murderous rampage.
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Sorry but both atheists and the religious do kill people it is just that I had hoped for better from the atheists.Scumple wrote:Neither atheists nor theists kill people. The ones who do that are either very smart or very dumb people who 'consider' their situation, make their choices. The ones who fight for a righteous cause killing a few to save the many, they are of all kinds. And evil times snare men like fish in a net, to be on the safe side, in case the weak front of atheism turns theist.
We should be MOST skeptical of ideas we like because we are sufficiently skeptical of ideas that we don't like. Penn Jillette.
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Being an atheist has nothing whatsoever to do with either a lack of, or an increase in, personal morality.DaveDodo007 wrote:Sorry but both atheists and the religious do kill people it is just that I had hoped for better from the atheists.Scumple wrote:Neither atheists nor theists kill people. The ones who do that are either very smart or very dumb people who 'consider' their situation, make their choices. The ones who fight for a righteous cause killing a few to save the many, they are of all kinds. And evil times snare men like fish in a net, to be on the safe side, in case the weak front of atheism turns theist.
It simply involves ceasing to believe in a superstition without any evidence-based credibility.
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I know this and you know this. So were did the mountain of body bags come from?JimC wrote:Being an atheist has nothing whatsoever to do with either a lack of, or an increase in, personal morality.DaveDodo007 wrote:Sorry but both atheists and the religious do kill people it is just that I had hoped for better from the atheists.Scumple wrote:Neither atheists nor theists kill people. The ones who do that are either very smart or very dumb people who 'consider' their situation, make their choices. The ones who fight for a righteous cause killing a few to save the many, they are of all kinds. And evil times snare men like fish in a net, to be on the safe side, in case the weak front of atheism turns theist.
It simply involves ceasing to believe in a superstition without any evidence-based credibility.
We should be MOST skeptical of ideas we like because we are sufficiently skeptical of ideas that we don't like. Penn Jillette.
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The alleged son of God allegedly said: Luke 19:27: "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me." With that in mind the crusaders sallied forth and massacred heretics till they were wading in blood ankle deep. Then there is that Christian philosopher, William Lane Craig. He argues that genocide is ok when the Lord commands it, because, you know, the Lord can do no wrong, and he points to the bit in the Bible where the Lord commands precisely that. Deuteronomy 7:1-2: When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou; And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them. While crusades have become unfashionable, killing heretics, individually or in bulk, has remained a time honoured tradition, and of course the Christians don't have a monopoly on it. Muslims use their Koran to conduct Jihads and pronounce deadly fatwās, sometimes with unseemly enthusiasm.DaveDodo007 wrote:I know this and you know this. So were did the mountain of body bags come from?JimC wrote:Being an atheist has nothing whatsoever to do with either a lack of, or an increase in, personal morality.DaveDodo007 wrote:Sorry but both atheists and the religious do kill people it is just that I had hoped for better from the atheists.
It simply involves ceasing to believe in a superstition without any evidence-based credibility.
So, we have established that theists can and do use their holy texts to kill. Now, what about atheists? Well, let's see now. I'm an atheist, and I have my atheist text on the shelf right behind me. It's basically a straight inversion of the Bible. Give me a moment, and I'll read some relevant excerpts out for you. Ah, here is one. Page 17: "The absence of a belief in a God-thingy as such is not good enough. Atheists must prove the strength and sincerity with which they hold that non-belief by killing lots of theists." And another. Page 126: "Eat many babies."
There, now, that should clear things up for you.
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From ideology and/or racist belief structures, for a start. Simply, atheism guarantees little, other than ruling out the use of a direct belief in a god as a reason for anything.DaveDodo007 wrote:I know this and you know this. So were did the mountain of body bags come from?JimC wrote:Being an atheist has nothing whatsoever to do with either a lack of, or an increase in, personal morality.DaveDodo007 wrote:Sorry but both atheists and the religious do kill people it is just that I had hoped for better from the atheists.Scumple wrote:Neither atheists nor theists kill people. The ones who do that are either very smart or very dumb people who 'consider' their situation, make their choices. The ones who fight for a righteous cause killing a few to save the many, they are of all kinds. And evil times snare men like fish in a net, to be on the safe side, in case the weak front of atheism turns theist.
It simply involves ceasing to believe in a superstition without any evidence-based credibility.
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Re: Atheist's genocide.
Because Genesis was right. We're all born of original shitheadedness. It takes some effort to not be an asshole. Sometimes that effort is just too much.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Anyway I'm a nihilist so even if atheists with political motivations concoct the most prominent mass killings it really isn't down to my sort of atheism. 

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Which atheist's genocide are we talking about exactly? Or did you mean 'atheists' genocide'? Or even 'atheists' genocides'?
Saying, "I hoped for better from atheists", to me, is like saying, "I hoped for better for people who don't believe in UFOs."
I know of two dangerous political ideals which had pretty high body counts (Communism and Nazism). One was based on Marxist ideology on how to run a country, the other on right-wing Christian ideology ( the Nazis thought that white people were direct decendants of Adam and Eve, blacks were the cursed sons of Ham and the other races were sub-humans, they also thought the Jews were Christ-killers). Neither was based on any "atheist" ideolgy. In fact you'd be hard pressed to find any genuine atheist ideology. The nearest I can think is Atheism Plus and look how that turned out.DaveDodo007 wrote:The twentieth century showed use that atheism could match the body count of the last 2,000 years of religious in just one century.
No. It means nothing of the sort. I've a friend who doesn't believe in God, hates religion, but believes every other woo and conspiracy theory under the sun. There is no book which tells how atheists how they should be and if there was I would reject it. Again, I'm reminded of Atheism Plus.DaveDodo007 wrote:To stop people believing in god just takes them having expose to other points of view, this is not always effective but works in the long run. Now having people not falling for religion should be a good thing right. All those ho so critical thinkers means we will all embrace science and logic right.
The stats on prisoners' religious views beg to differ.DaveDodo007 wrote: TL:DR: Atheists will still kill more than the religious because they are gullible stupid morons.
And therein lies the problem. You think there is a particular way that atheists should behave and act. That atheism should stand for something, and in this view you are more like religious than you think.DaveDodo007 wrote: Sorry but both atheists and the religious do kill people it is just that I had hoped for better from the atheists.
Saying, "I hoped for better from atheists", to me, is like saying, "I hoped for better for people who don't believe in UFOs."
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