Is The Modern World A Chimera?

[Atheist-Lite]

Various discoveries and historical contingencies have contributed to the formation of the modern world as we know it today. Is this a rugged example of longterm human progess or a transitory kludge doomed to failure from the start, and full of a myirad of hidden flaws as others, like Crumple would contend?

[Clinton Huxley]

The chimerical kludge is keeping you in enough comfort that you can spend all day on here moaning about how terrible everything is...

[Atheist-Lite]

The chimerical kludge is keeping you in enough comfort that you can spend all day on here moaning about how terrible everything is...

For now.

[Rum]

I wonder if you have the faintest idea how unliked you are here.

[Atheist-Lite]

I wonder if you have the faintest idea how unliked you are here.

I'm not here to be liked. The point for me is to wake some people up and persuade them to prepare for the coming catastrophe. I have a lot of false optimism to counter so I must tell the news, explain the reality of the situation as it is rather than it is imagined to be, in the bleakest manner without blinkers. There is not a happy ending here - things are going to get so bad death will be relief for some who now count themselves lucky and safe.

[Thinking Aloud]

Hey - we'll make the most of what we've got, while we've got it. If/when it all falls apart, we'll either make do or we won't. If we don't make do then we'll die, and I'll worry about that when I get to it. I don't see any reason to get morbid about it either way - once we're gone we won't regret a thing.

[Atheist-Lite]

Hey - we'll make the most of what we've got, while we've got it. If/when it all falls apart, we'll either make do or we won't. If we don't make do then we'll die, and I'll worry about that when I get to it. I don't see any reason to get morbid about it either way - once we're gone we won't regret a thing.

A lack of preperation isn't going to help the odds and this beasty isn't on the far horizon. Think about it?

[Thinking Aloud]

Hey - we'll make the most of what we've got, while we've got it. If/when it all falls apart, we'll either make do or we won't. If we don't make do then we'll die, and I'll worry about that when I get to it. I don't see any reason to get morbid about it either way - once we're gone we won't regret a thing.

A lack of preperation isn't going to help the odds and this beasty isn't on the far horizon. Think about it?

Nah. I'll take it as it comes. If I lose out, I lose out, and so be it.

[klr]

The chimerical kludge is keeping you in enough comfort that you can spend all day on here moaning about how terrible everything is...

For now.

Come the Great Catastrophe, your internet connection will be the first thing to disappear, and then you will actually have to talk to Mrs. Crumple to amuse yourself.

[Audley Strange]

I wonder if you have the faintest idea how unliked you are here.

What a fucking childish thing to say.

He might not be the most cheery person in the world but I get more sick of noticing you're whining about his threads. Not that I'm saying you don't have the right to but man you're a pain in the arse with it. It it upsets your little sensibilities so much why don't you fucking stop reading them. You're like one of those Christian cunts that sits down and monitors what's on T.V. just so they can be appalled and complain about it.

I suspect I'm not the only one who's sick of your whining.

So, do you have the faintest idea how unliked you are?

I seriously doubt it.

[Atheist-Lite]

I am not saying the end is nigh here anyway. What is likely will be the first of a number of catastrophes or ruptures which lead to eventual civilization collapse. Each level of decline might be viewed as a reduced energy state. It is unlikely that a level will be reclaimed until the overall energy of a civilization is so eroded that 'rebuilding' towards the first rupture becomes impossible rather than unlikely. At that point something new and different and 'advanced' might be built. The level of erosion in terms of civilization defining features must be very marked to remove the possiblity of a return to the old, and a similar collapse. The difference between the Roman world and the modern is small in comparison with what is required to avoid a similar 'growth to infinity - crash to zero' era. Human beings would almost have to be a distinctly different species, which might be worth exploring in a seperate thread? when this is combined with ongoing post industrial climatic variablity makes it a unlikely proposition. There is a narrow window but that is closing rapidly and very few, perhaps none, are up to the challenge of taking it.

[Animavore]

I like you.

[amused]

In the business world they use the term 'creative destruction' to describe the constant turmoil that brings down established business models (newspapers for example) while new business models emerge. The same thing will (is) happen(ing) to civilization as a whole. It's in constant creative destructive turmoil.

[amused]

I wonder if you have the faintest idea how unliked you are here.

What a fucking childish thing to say.

He might not be the most cheery person in the world but I get more sick of noticing you're whining about his threads. Not that I'm saying you don't have the right to but man you're a pain in the arse with it. It it upsets your little sensibilities so much why don't you fucking stop reading them. You're like one of those Christian cunts that sits down and monitors what's on T.V. just so they can be appalled and complain about it.

I suspect I'm not the only one who's sick of your whining.

So, do you have the faintest idea how unliked you are?

I seriously doubt it.

What a fucking idiotic thing to say.

I get so sick and tired of reading your threads complaining about Rum's threads. Why do you always whine so much about his threads? If you don't like them, stop reading them!

Do you have the faintest idea how unliked you are?

[Thinking Aloud]