Bernie vs Trump presidential debate......

[Forty Two]

He fucking disavowed them on TV interviews and at a Republican debate. Do you not pay any attention to that which you are discussing while pretending to know what you're talking about?

What he's saying is that the link you provided to show that he disavowed them doesn't actually show that he disavowed them. To the contrary, it claims that he didn't disavow them.

That's not what he's saying, because that can't be what he's saying - Trump did disavow - several times -- He said flat out, at the Republican debate in Detroit -- using the word disavow "I disavow David Duke. I disavow the KKK." That was after previously using the words "I disavow..." during a press conference.

There are videos of Trump disavowing.

But, this is the weird tendency these days. People won't actually pay attention to what candidates actually say. Bernie says he's a socialist, many times, and people insist that "he's a social democrat, like they do in Sweden." Confront people with Bernie's exact words "I'm a socialist" or "I'm a democratic socialist" and they say "well, that's just semantics - he's really just a social democrat..."

Same with Trump -- people ask him if he disavows David Duke -and Trump several times says "I disavow..." and they keep on asking him if he will disavow and such, and folks like you insist that he never disavowed.

[Forty Two]

As long as you promise not to do anything unnatural to it...

"Unnatural??" You bigot!

Gender is a social construct, and so folks can identify as ponyphiles if they want.

Also, they're born this way. It's a social construct, but pony-lovers are born this way. Haven't you been listening to the Progressive Left?

[pErvinalia]

He fucking disavowed them on TV interviews and at a Republican debate. Do you not pay any attention to that which you are discussing while pretending to know what you're talking about?

What he's saying is that the link you provided to show that he disavowed them doesn't actually show that he disavowed them. To the contrary, it claims that he didn't disavow them.

That's not what he's saying, because that can't be what he's saying - Trump did disavow - several times -- He said flat out, at the Republican debate in Detroit -- using the word disavow "I disavow David Duke. I disavow the KKK." That was after previously using the words "I disavow..." during a press conference.

There are videos of Trump disavowing.

Can you not read?!? We are talking about the link that YOU provided as evidence.

But, this is the weird tendency these days. People won't actually pay attention to what candidates actually say.

He's a furrner. Give him a break. You can't expect him to see all the same material that you as a Merkin have.

Bernie says he's a socialist, many times, and people insist that "he's a social democrat, like they do in Sweden." Confront people with Bernie's exact words "I'm a socialist" or "I'm a democratic socialist" and they say "well, that's just semantics - he's really just a social democrat..."

Ideologically Bern is a socialist. But he's not going to be prez of a socialist country. He's going to exist in a capitalist system. So of course he's going to be a social democrat.

and folks like you insist that he never disavowed.

Fuck off, I never said any such thing.

[Forty Two]

He fucking disavowed them on TV interviews and at a Republican debate. Do you not pay any attention to that which you are discussing while pretending to know what you're talking about?

What he's saying is that the link you provided to show that he disavowed them doesn't actually show that he disavowed them. To the contrary, it claims that he didn't disavow them.

That's not what he's saying, because that can't be what he's saying - Trump did disavow - several times -- He said flat out, at the Republican debate in Detroit -- using the word disavow "I disavow David Duke. I disavow the KKK." That was after previously using the words "I disavow..." during a press conference.

There are videos of Trump disavowing.

Can you not read?!? We are talking about the link that YOU provided as evidence.

I linked to several videos - each of which have him "disavowing." Is a videotape of Trump disavowing not enough for you to accept that he disavowed?

But, this is the weird tendency these days. People won't actually pay attention to what candidates actually say.

He's a furrner. Give him a break. You can't expect him to see all the same material that you as a Merkin have.

I'm talking about you. I posted videos of Trump saying he disavowed, and you continue to prattle on. Just admit that he did disavow, several times.

Bernie says he's a socialist, many times, and people insist that "he's a social democrat, like they do in Sweden." Confront people with Bernie's exact words "I'm a socialist" or "I'm a democratic socialist" and they say "well, that's just semantics - he's really just a social democrat..."

Ideologically Bern is a socialist. But he's not going to be prez of a socialist country. He's going to exist in a capitalist system. So of course he's going to be a social democrat.

He's a socialist. He says he's a socialist. In his own words - he says he's a socialist.

and folks like you insist that he never disavowed.

Fuck off, I never said any such thing.

Will you admit that he did, in fact, disavow?

[Svartalf]

Q: Is Trump in the Mob's pocket?
A: Do you know any other way to bankrupt a casino in Atlantic City?

If you've ever been to Atlantic City, you can easily see how a casino can go insolvent.

Moreover, bankruptcy laws aren't limited to businesses that have "gone under" totally. Business bankruptcies can be reorganizations. They have teams of accountants and tax professionals that structure things over the course of years, and plan for bankruptcies. Filing reorganization is absolutely no indication that the business failed, or that Trump lost money.

Or how the rich use and abuse the laws to make themselves richer and the little people suffer...

I loved Gladiator At Law by Pohl and Kornbluth which deals with precisely that matter.

[pErvinalia]

He fucking disavowed them on TV interviews and at a Republican debate. Do you not pay any attention to that which you are discussing while pretending to know what you're talking about?

What he's saying is that the link you provided to show that he disavowed them doesn't actually show that he disavowed them. To the contrary, it claims that he didn't disavow them.

That's not what he's saying, because that can't be what he's saying - Trump did disavow - several times -- He said flat out, at the Republican debate in Detroit -- using the word disavow "I disavow David Duke. I disavow the KKK." That was after previously using the words "I disavow..." during a press conference.

There are videos of Trump disavowing.

Can you not read?!? We are talking about the link that YOU provided as evidence.

I linked to several videos - each of which have him "disavowing."

In the post he is responding to you only provided ONE link, and it was to an article which stated that he didn't disavow the KKK guy.

Is a videotape of Trump disavowing not enough for you to accept that he disavowed?

Don't try and move the goal posts. This is about you misrepresenting Ani and the evidence that YOU provided.

But, this is the weird tendency these days. People won't actually pay attention to what candidates actually say.

He's a furrner. Give him a break. You can't expect him to see all the same material that you as a Merkin have.

I'm talking about you. I posted videos of Trump saying he disavowed, and you continue to prattle on.

I never said he didn't disavow. Can you not understand plain English? I am pointing out that you are misrepresenting Ani and the article that you posted.

Bernie says he's a socialist, many times, and people insist that "he's a social democrat, like they do in Sweden." Confront people with Bernie's exact words "I'm a socialist" or "I'm a democratic socialist" and they say "well, that's just semantics - he's really just a social democrat..."

Ideologically Bern is a socialist. But he's not going to be prez of a socialist country. He's going to exist in a capitalist system. So of course he's going to be a social democrat.

He's a socialist. He says he's a socialist. In his own words - he says he's a socialist.

Why are you telling me this? I already know that. I just said the same thing.

and folks like you insist that he never disavowed.

Fuck off, I never said any such thing.

Will you admit that he did, in fact, disavow?

Why wouldn't I (other than it doesn't fit your biased view)?

[Forty Two]

I linked to several videos - each of which have him "disavowing."

In the post he is responding to you only provided ONE link, and it was to an article which stated that he didn't disavow the KKK guy.

http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 0#p1658276

I'm really at a loss - what link did I post that said he did not disavow?

Is a videotape of Trump disavowing not enough for you to accept that he disavowed?

Don't try and move the goal posts. This is about you misrepresenting Ani and the evidence that YOU provided.

I scanned all the posts, and I don't see it. Help me out by linking to the post you're referring to.

But, this is the weird tendency these days. People won't actually pay attention to what candidates actually say.

He's a furrner. Give him a break. You can't expect him to see all the same material that you as a Merkin have.

I'm talking about you. I posted videos of Trump saying he disavowed, and you continue to prattle on.

I never said he didn't disavow. Can you not understand plain English? I am pointing out that you are misrepresenting Ani and the article that you posted.

I haven't misrepresented Ani. He said Trump didn't disavow, and I proved he did.

and folks like you insist that he never disavowed.

Fuck off, I never said any such thing.

Will you admit that he did, in fact, disavow?[/quote]

Why wouldn't I (other than it doesn't fit your biased view)?[/quote]

I don't know why you wouldn't. But, you haven't yet.

[pErvinalia]

I linked to several videos - each of which have him "disavowing."

In the post he is responding to you only provided ONE link, and it was to an article which stated that he didn't disavow the KKK guy.

http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 0#p1658276

I'm really at a loss - what link did I post that said he did not disavow?

The fucking post we are talking about occurred BEFORE the link you just provided. Ani hasn't even responded since you posted the post in that link. FFS, I simply don't understand how you even manage to get through a regular day with the amount of confusion you seem to be permanently afflicted by. This is the post we are talking about: http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 0#p1658264 . Ani quotes your post with the link we are talking about in it.

But, this is the weird tendency these days. People won't actually pay attention to what candidates actually say.

He's a furrner. Give him a break. You can't expect him to see all the same material that you as a Merkin have.

I'm talking about you. I posted videos of Trump saying he disavowed, and you continue to prattle on.

I never said he didn't disavow. Can you not understand plain English? I am pointing out that you are misrepresenting Ani and the article that you posted.

I haven't misrepresented Ani. He said Trump didn't disavow, and I proved he did.

Nup. The link you provided that Ani was responding to said the exact opposite.

and folks like you insist that he never disavowed.

Fuck off, I never said any such thing.

Will you admit that he did, in fact, disavow?

Why wouldn't I (other than it doesn't fit your biased view)?

I don't know why you wouldn't. But, you haven't yet.

Again, why should I either admit it or admit the opposite? I'm not the one making a claim. I'm simply pointing out yet another case of you being utterly confused.

[Scot Dutchy]

Well he is a Trump supporter. Confusion is a specified requirement.

[Forty Two]

I linked to several videos - each of which have him "disavowing."

In the post he is responding to you only provided ONE link, and it was to an article which stated that he didn't disavow the KKK guy.

http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 0#p1658276

I'm really at a loss - what link did I post that said he did not disavow?

The fucking post we are talking about occurred BEFORE the link you just provided. Ani hasn't even responded since you posted the post in that link. FFS, I simply don't understand how you even manage to get through a regular day with the amount of confusion you seem to be permanently afflicted by. This is the post we are talking about: http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 0#p1658264 . Ani quotes your post with the link we are talking about in it.

Look, dipshit, the video that plays when you open that link has Donald Trump getting interviewed by George Stephanopoulos wherein he asks Trump about Ryan's statement -- Trump points out that for days he's "disavowed" many times, on Twitter and in press conference, etc. He is then asked by George Stephanopoulus if he will disavow ALL white supremacist organizations - and Trump says "of course, yes. Of course."

you just didn't bother to listen to the video that opens in the link. You don't care about the truth. You just want to hurl insults. You're such a liar...

there is a 1 minute and 10 second video of Paul Ryan, and then a four minute video of George Stephanopoulus interviewing Trump where he discusses his multiple disavowing.....and he disavows again.

I don't know why you wouldn't. But, you haven't yet.

Again, why should I either admit it or admit the opposite? I'm not the one making a claim. I'm simply pointing out yet another case of you being utterly confused.[/quote]

Well, because the point of discussion was whether Trump did, in fact, disavow. He did, multiple times. Didn't he? Yes or no.

And, you're the one that's confused. Well, not confused, I suspect. Lying. The link I posted did have Trump disavowing, and also had the video wherein it was pointed out that he had disavowed many times over several days.

You either didn't bother to listen, or are making shit up.

[pErvinalia]

In the post he is responding to you only provided ONE link, and it was to an article which stated that he didn't disavow the KKK guy.

http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 0#p1658276

I'm really at a loss - what link did I post that said he did not disavow?

The fucking post we are talking about occurred BEFORE the link you just provided. Ani hasn't even responded since you posted the post in that link. FFS, I simply don't understand how you even manage to get through a regular day with the amount of confusion you seem to be permanently afflicted by. This is the post we are talking about: http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 0#p1658264 . Ani quotes your post with the link we are talking about in it.

Look, dipshit, the video that plays when you open that link has Donald Trump getting interviewed by George Stephanopoulos wherein he asks Trump about Ryan's statement -- Trump points out that for days he's "disavowed" many times, on Twitter and in press conference, etc. He is then asked by George Stephanopoulus if he will disavow ALL white supremacist organizations - and Trump says "of course, yes. Of course."

you just didn't bother to listen to the video that opens in the link. You don't care about the truth. You just want to hurl insults. You're such a liar...

there is a 1 minute and 10 second video of Paul Ryan, and then a four minute video of George Stephanopoulus interviewing Trump where he discusses his multiple disavowing.....and he disavows again.

No video plays when I open that link. You are assuming everyone adopts your insecure internet settings. In fact, there's no video at all there when I open the link, only an image. But then, I have tight security on my browser, so some videos that have suspect sources or outdated plugins won't play. If the video does say that, then it's totally incongruous with the text which claims that Trump didn't initially disavow the KKK guy.

You either didn't bother to listen, or are making shit up.

Or a third option that your biased brain couldn't imagine.

Look, this all started when you accused Ani of lying. He didn't lie and you didn't show where he lied. That he hasn't seen everything that you have on Trump doesn't mean he is lying. That's just disingenuous bullshit.

[DaveDodo007]

I can only wish David Duke could get elected vice president lol. Actually it's a shame we weren't electing David Duke for president.
If David Duke were elected President, we'd not be involved in useless middle eastern wars, the US would not be involved in wreckless imperalism, cities would be safe after dark, jails would be empty, 9/11 would never have happened, organized crime would be gone, low skilled workers would be able to support a family, welfare would be a safety net instead of a way of life, manufacturing jobs would be in the US still, illegal aliens would number in the thousands instead if millions. The US would be a peaceful and prosperous place if only David Duke were President.

But would I get a free pony?!

Aiming a bit low aren't you, if the above becomes true you should demand a unicorn.