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Re: GOP Primaries/Caucuses Discussions, Jokes and Prediction

Post by Forty Two » Thu Mar 31, 2016 3:25 pm

laklak wrote:I'm have trouble taking any of this clown car cavalcade seriously. There's the Shrill Old Man, the Harridan, Bombastic Shit Hair, and the Pervy Worship Leader. What a choice.
Giant douche and shit sandwich.
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Mar 31, 2016 3:35 pm

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Drumpf supporters first pepper spray, then yell “n****r lover” to 15-year-old protester in Paul Ryan’s hometown
http://www.salon.com/2016/03/30/trump_s ... socialflow
Made up by the regressive left. That "15 year old protester" threw a punch and hit someone, who then immediately pepper sprayed.

These shit-stirrers show up at Trump rallies for the purpose of provocation, and they will initiate violence.



There is a reason violence erupts at these rallies -- fucking little shits like that come there swinging, cursing and provoking. What does one expect? You get free reign to disrupt a rally?

It's their tactics --

The same kind of regressive jackoffs bullying a student reporter --
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Post by Animavore » Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:49 pm

Wow! Is there no level you won't stoop to to defend Trump and his odious supporters? You think pepper spraying a young girl is acceptable?

Fuck off.
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:59 pm

Animavore wrote:Wow! Is there no level you won't stoop to to defend Trump and his odious supporters? You think pepper spraying a young girl is acceptable?

Fuck off.
I'm not defending Trump here. He wasn't there and bears no responsibility. I'm not going to start blaming Bernie or Clinton because their supporters go to Trump rallies and throw punches and hurl slurs. Do you? Are Sanders and Clinton responsible for the "climate" where this happens? Heck,some of the protesters are being paid to incite this kind of thing.... http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03 ... est-trump/ How low will you go to defend them?

Regardless of whether you think the pepper spray was excessive, shouldn't the headline be "protester assaults Trump supporter, and is pepper sprayed in response?"

The fact that she is a woman is irrelevant. If you're going to throw punches, then people can respond. And, if there was a Trump supporter at a Bernie or Clinton rally who threw a punch and was then pepper sprayed, I guaran-fucking-tee that you would side with the pepper sprayer who responded to the punch. Guaranteed. No use denying it. I'd eat my fucking hat if you were to say "oh, no, if a Trump supporter throws a punch at Bernie rally, it's way over the top to pepper spray him back." But, go for it -- say it -- say that if the roles were reversed, and this was a Trump supporter throwing the punch, you'd be outraged by the pepper spray.
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Post by Animavore » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:05 pm

Yer man groped her. You're also leaving out the "n- lover" part, and that Trump supporters came to them shouting "All lives matter" to drown them out. It seems to me the protesters showed Trump's supporters up exactly as the racist, white bread, chicken-shit mother fuckers they are.

And no. I wouldn't side with anyone doing that shit to a little girl. If someone did that to my same aged niece I'd destroy them.
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:26 pm

Animavore wrote:Yer man groped her.
Not my man, and there is no evidence of that. The video shows no groping.
Animavore wrote: You're also leaving out the "n- lover" part,
Doesn't have anything to do with the pepper spray, and again, that's the allegation, but I don't trust the agitating protesters. They are lying sacks of shit half the time.
Animavore wrote: and that Trump supporters came to them shouting "All lives matter" to drown them out.
The protesters came to the trump rally, not vice versa. If you're going to go to someone else's rally to shout and scream and disturb, don't expect the people whose rally you're invading to keep their mouths shut.
Animavore wrote: It seems to me the protesters showed Trump's supporters up exactly as the racist, white bread, chicken-shit mother fuckers they are.
Looks to me as if the protesters showed themselves to be the leftist, regressive, violent, shit-stirring, lying pieces of shit they usually are.
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And no. I wouldn't side with anyone doing that shit to a little girl. If someone did that to my same aged niece I'd destroy them.
She's not a little girl. She was taller than most of the folks around her, and she was clearly screaming and antagonizing those around her, and she threw a punch.

This kind of shit -- the nonsense about someone touching her breast -- that's a tactic these creeps learn:



When it comes to the leftist protesters, I'll believe it when I see it. They are lying pieces of shit, and will say anything to push their agenda. Scumbags.
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Post by Animavore » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:34 pm

How would the video show something which is alleged to happen before the video started? People have a right to protest, I'm led to believe, I don't think they're particularly productive, I think in the case of shit-stirrers like Trump supporters they're counterproductive, but the right is there.

Saying the girl is tall doesn't mean shit. She's still a girl. It was unacceptable for a grown man to do that to her.

The allegation that the protesters learn to use breast touching allegations as a tactic is particularly disgusting.
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:51 pm

Animavore wrote:How would the video show something which is alleged to happen before the video started?
Why would you automatically believe this person? You see that she threw a punch. She was not being touched by anyone else prior to the punch, so she is not responding to having been groped. She CLAIMS to have been groped. That's all.

In this video angle, you see her conduct -- she's standing with a sign chanting. She then gets into an argument with an older guy who appears to be a trump supporter. He is holding some papers in his hands and you can see absolutely that he does not "grope" her AT ALL. She slams his arm that is holding the papers and starts screaming in his face. He turns away from her, and she's still going ballistic. With no provocation, she swings a punch at someone. There is literally 2 full minutes of footage before she throws the punch, and there is no groping. during the 2 minutes, there is no behavior on her part to suggest she had just been groped.


Animavore wrote: People have a right to protest, I'm led to believe, I don't think they're particularly productive, I think in the case of shit-stirrers like Trump supporters they're counterproductive, but the right is there.
Yes, they do. But, they don't have the right to throw punches. Who was protesting here and who was hitting?
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Saying the girl is tall doesn't mean shit. She's still a girl. It was unacceptable for a grown man to do that to her.
False. First of all, I'd like to see verification of her age. She sure doesn't look 15. She looks college age. Second, if someone throws a punch at you, you can defend yourself. She's lucky she didn't get punched back.
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The allegation that the protesters learn to use breast touching allegations as a tactic is particularly disgusting.
Watch the second video I posted. I showed you an example of that disgusting practice of shouting "get your hands off my breast!" when nobody is touching them. I gave you rock-solid evidence of it - an example. The person shouted "get your hands off my breast!" several times when nobody was touching her, and then she pushed a guy off a six foot ledge, seriously hurting the guy. That's their tactics. If you find that particularly disgusting, then join the club.
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Post by Animavore » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:55 pm

No. I'm not watching the second video because pointing at someone else and saying they did it so this must mean she did it, or they're taught to do it, isn't an argument. Show me evidence of the training camp they're taught to do this.
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:59 pm

Animavore wrote:No. I'm not watching the second video because pointing at someone else and saying they did it so this must mean she did it, or they're taught to do it, isn't an argument. Show me evidence of the training camp they're taught to do this.
No, it's not an argument. It's direct evidence in support of an argument. It's a leftist utilizing exactly that tactic -- false allegation of someone touching her breast when everyone can see that nobody is doing so -- in order to push her agenda at the time, and then she assaults the guy and shoves him off the ledge (and then all the leftists on her regressive team erupt in CHEERS because the guy was now writhing in pain on the ground after having been knocked off a ledge).

The fact is, nobody saw the person who was pepper sprayed get groped. She's just screaming it. There is a long time on the videotape, so when did the grope happen? Who did it? The guy she punched or someone else? There is no reason to take her assertions at face value. Why do you?
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Post by Animavore » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:05 pm

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Animavore wrote:No. I'm not watching the second video because pointing at someone else and saying they did it so this must mean she did it, or they're taught to do it, isn't an argument. Show me evidence of the training camp they're taught to do this.
No, it's not an argument. It's direct evidence in support of an argument. It's a leftist utilizing exactly that tactic -- false allegation of someone touching her breast when everyone can see that nobody is doing so -- in order to push her agenda at the time, and then she assaults the guy and shoves him off the ledge (and then all the leftists on her regressive team erupt in CHEERS because the guy was now writhing in pain on the ground after having been knocked off a ledge).

The fact is, nobody saw the person who was pepper sprayed get groped. She's just screaming it. There is a long time on the videotape, so when did the grope happen? Who did it? The guy she punched or someone else? There is no reason to take her assertions at face value. Why do you?
There's equally no grounds to take your accusation at face value either. The video of someone else doing it is not evidence to support your argument at all. All you've shown is evidence of someone doing it. You've no grounds to say that's what this girl did and you've certainly no grounds to say 'these creeps' learn to do it.
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:44 pm

I'm not making an accusation. I'm just not "listening and believing" without evidence. The evidence we have shows her throw a punch and then get pepper sprayed.

Yes, my argument is that this is a tactic that has been used, and what I've shown is evidence of someone using that very tactic at a protest event.

I don't have grounds to say that's what she did. I do have grounds, however, not to believe her at face value, because there is no evidence in support of what she says.

You had no problem labeling trump supporters like this -- "It seems to me the protesters showed Trump's supporters up exactly as the racist, white bread, chicken-shit mother fuckers they are" -- based on what you think is an example of someone saying "nigger lover" -- you don't know if that really happened. And, even if it did happen it would only be the specific single example. So, you seem fine with using conduct of specific Trump supporters to make statements about the entire group, but you don't want to generalize about the group of Leftist wingnuts on the basis of various examples of leftist wingnuts. Got it. The examples of leftist wingnuts, paid protesters, antagonization and violence initiated by the leftist wingnuts tell us nothing about them as a group, but one allegation of someone saying "nigger lover" shows that Trump's supporters are exactly as racist, white bread chicken shit motherfuckers...."
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Post by Animavore » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:58 pm

Lol. You clearly hear someone calling her a "n- lover" in the video after she gets sprayed. I don't 'think' it's an example. What I didn't hear were any Trump supporters condemning him or telling him to shut up. Only cheers of support for that, and a vicious assault on a young teen.
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Post by Forty Two » Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:09 pm

Animavore wrote:Lol. You clearly hear someone calling her a "n- lover" in the video after she gets sprayed. I don't 'think' it's an example. What I didn't hear were any Trump supporters condemning him or telling him to shut up. Only cheers of support for that, and a vicious assault on a young teen.
Sure, and I see this woman throw a punch first, when nobody was touching her. Does that show the protesters to be the shitstirring, violent creeps they are?

She assaulted someone first, and she's clearly no angel. The fact that she's a "teen" is not relevant. Teenagers commit a fair bit of violence. If a teenager throws a punch, the recipient has a right of self defense.
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Forty Two wrote:
Animavore wrote:Lol. You clearly hear someone calling her a "n- lover" in the video after she gets sprayed. I don't 'think' it's an example. What I didn't hear were any Trump supporters condemning him or telling him to shut up. Only cheers of support for that, and a vicious assault on a young teen.
Sure, and I see this woman throw a punch first, when nobody was touching her. Does that show the protesters to be the shitstirring, violent creeps they are?

She assaulted someone first, and she's clearly no angel. The fact that she's a "teen" is not relevant. Teenagers commit a fair bit of violence. If a teenager throws a punch, the recipient has a right of self defense.
He was in no danger. She was being dragged back.

I'm sure he feels like the big, hard man.

I think he's scum.
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