Repeal the First Amendment in the US?

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Re: Repeal the First Amendment in the US?

Post by Forty Two » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:42 pm

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Idiocy is universal.
You just made that up.
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More than 40 per cent of Australians do not know how long it takes the Earth to travel around the sun, according to a new survey.
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Re: Repeal the First Amendment in the US?

Post by Forty Two » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:44 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:Did anyone post that story yet about the Mercan town that didn't want their solar program because they thought it would suck all the energy out of the sun?
Ken Ham is Australian.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Repeal the First Amendment in the US?

Post by Forty Two » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:46 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:Holy fuck. :o I'd still be willing to bet Mercans would score worse than that.
Must be why the US has done so well over the last 240 years. More stupid people than anyone else.
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Re: Repeal the First Amendment in the US?

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:53 pm

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rEvolutionist wrote:Did anyone post that story yet about the Mercan town that didn't want their solar program because they thought it would suck all the energy out of the sun?
Ken Ham is Australian.
I think he's actually a kiwi, isn't he? Either way, he should be.
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Re: Repeal the First Amendment in the US?

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:55 pm

Forty Two wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:Holy fuck. :o I'd still be willing to bet Mercans would score worse than that.
Must be why the US has done so well over the last 240 years. More stupid people than anyone else.
No one is saying you don't have smart people. You just seem to have a high proportion of incredibly stupid people. That's what happens when you live in a highly stratified society (something which Australia has been trying to emulate for the last 35yrs).
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Re: Repeal the First Amendment in the US?

Post by Svartalf » Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:05 pm

You need scientific studies to know that? You just need to look at and listen to them to get all the knowledge needed for that.
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Re: Repeal the First Amendment in the US?

Post by Forty Two » Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:16 pm

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rEvolutionist wrote:Holy fuck. :o I'd still be willing to bet Mercans would score worse than that.
Must be why the US has done so well over the last 240 years. More stupid people than anyone else.
No one is saying you don't have smart people. You just seem to have a high proportion of incredibly stupid people. That's what happens when you live in a highly stratified society (something which Australia has been trying to emulate for the last 35yrs).
Given the stats in the survey regarding Australians, whether the US has a higher proportion of that seems to be still an issue to be determined. Indeed, the US has lots of surveys showing lots of Americans are stupid. But, is that because they are subjected to more highly publicized surveys, or because people in the rest of the world really are, for some reason, smarter.

The US is not "highly" stratified. We are higher stratified in terms of income inequality than a lot of social democracies in Europe and perhaps OZ/NZ. But, overall we are in or around the top 30 countries - out of almost 200. An example of "highly stratified" is Brazil, or a place like that, where they have ridiculous income inequality.

The US, while more "stratified" than the social democracies of Europe, we have an overall higher standard of living. So, the bottom in the US is higher than just about anywhere else in the world. See the UN "Better Life Index." http://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/coun ... ed-states/ This is an oft ignored stat, because the US performs well.
The United States performs very well in many measures of well-being relative to most other countries in the Better Life Index. The United States rank at the top in housing, and income and wealth. They rank above the average in health status, jobs and earnings, personal security, subjective well-being, environmental quality, and civic engagement, but below average in work-life balance.
So, while there are negative stats about the US too, we need to be mindful that in the US the word "poor" means something a bit different than most everywhere else in te world.
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Re: Repeal the First Amendment in the US?

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Dec 22, 2015 4:19 pm

I haven't read the link, but if it's mean rather than median, then it is fairly meaningless.

And yes third world countries probably have more poorly educated people than the US. Well done.
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Re: Repeal the First Amendment in the US?

Post by rainbow » Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:33 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:I haven't read the link, but if it's mean rather than median, then it is fairly meaningless.

And yes third world countries probably have more poorly educated people than the US. Well done.

They have more people. The average Malawian probably understands world geography better than the average Merkin.
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Re: Repeal the First Amendment in the US?

Post by surreptitious57 » Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:05 pm

No one has a monopoly on wisdom since we all without exception say stupid things
I do not think that Americans say more stupid things than Australians or vice versa
I do not think that liberals say more stupid things than conservatives or vice versa
Now the only real divide is between those that say stupid things but none the less
try to learn from them and those that do not. Every thing else is irrelevant to this
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Re: Repeal the First Amendment in the US?

Post by JimC » Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:27 pm

Then there are those who say things in the form of really, really bad haikus...
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Re: Repeal the First Amendment in the US?

Post by Hermit » Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:53 am

JimC wrote:Then there are those who say things in the form of really, really bad haikus...
At least even the worst haikus are only 17 syllables short, though.
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Re: Repeal the First Amendment in the US?

Post by Jason » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:14 am

Forty Two wrote:More than 40% of Australians don't know that it takes one year for the Earth to go around the sun. 30% of Australians do not know if humans lived at the same time as dinosaurs.

Idiocy is universal.

It takes 365 days, 6 hours, 8 minutes, 38 seconds for the Earth to complete one orbit around the Sun. This is why we have leap years.

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