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Post by Cunt » Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:11 am

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"those delicate female scientists" says far more than I think you intended to Mr Cunt.
It's me who said it, not that scientist.

There are some which can be described as delicate - obviously. Are you in doubt about which group I was referring to? Or were you going to make it seem like I was impinging all women, because I mocked some?
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:05 am

Only those women uppity enough to think they can compete in a man's profession.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:21 am

For the 1% of Americans government is only there for the suppression of the 99% and making sure the world is never safe. Peace is the last thing they want and a return to the Cold War con would be very acceptable.
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Post by rainbow » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:12 am

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And so it should. What's the point of government if not the welfare of its citizens?
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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:39 am

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Post by laklak » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:13 pm

Governments are self-perpetuating organisms, much like a cancer. They grow until they consume the body politic.
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pErvinalia wrote:
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Only those women uppity enough to think they can compete in a man's profession.
Well, the ones who weren't 'delicate', would have been doing science, instead of crying about someone showing statistics which were unflattering to feminist dogmas.
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Post by Seabass » Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:04 am

The Republican party is a third world party.

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Post by Animavore » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:02 pm

It might be too late for people who support and excuse rapists like Trump and Kavanaugh, but maybe the younger boys can be taught not to be little rape apologist arseholes.
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Animavore wrote:
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It might be too late for people who support and excuse rapists like Trump and Kavanaugh, but maybe the younger boys can be taught not to be little rape apologist arseholes.
Ending Sexual Violence by Raising Better Boys
How to teach even the youngest sons to respect girls and understand boundaries—and themselves.
https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/1 ... ffZ4pfBsmc
If only we could place the education of young boys into the hands of some group that didn't hate women...THEN we would see boys grow into proper men!

Up until now, the people most responsible for educating small kids has been teaching them to be 'rape apologist arseholes', so we should stop those people.

Who has been teaching the young again? It was pretty much exclusively women when I was a kid, but it's been awhile...
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Re: Even more problematic stuff

Post by Forty Two » Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:34 pm

pErvinalia wrote:
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..the movement toward greater regulation of our economies, more and more social safety net programs, more government assistance...
What alternate universe are you living in? :?
Well, I don't know what Australia has done, but there are far more regulation of our economy here in the US now than 40 years ago, and there are FARRRRR more social safety net programs and government assistance in the US in 2018 than in 1978. Far more.
Did you miss the massive economic, financial, and labour deregulation that occurred when Reagan and Thatcher were at the helm of their respective countries? And regarding social safety nets, produce some evidence. I'd be very surprised if spending on social programs is greater now as a proportion of GDP than it was before Reagan.
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As for social safety net - In 2018 total US government spending on welfare — federal, state, and local — was estimated to to be over $1 trillion, including $642 billion for Medicaid, and $449 billion in other welfare. The only President who cut welfare programs (as a percentage of GDP) was Bill Clinton, and that was mostly because of the massive increase in GDP caused by the tech revolution in the 1990s. It's been pretty much an upward climb constantly in spending, and roughly constant percentage of GDP.
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Post by Rum » Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:42 pm

Conservatives love the idea of reducing legislation, making government ‘smaller’ and all of that. The fact is that an increasingly complex and interconnected world you can’t manage without the paper that regulates nearly all of it. Even expenditure on that holiest of holy grails for targeting, welfare, goes up and up under their steely hard stare.

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:44 pm

The trouble is long term thinking has never been their thing. It is all about short term gain.
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Re: Even more problematic stuff

Post by Forty Two » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:27 pm

Seabass wrote:
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The Republican party is a third world party.

This is a very sad incident.

'She got pregnant at age 38 (not a teenager) and was unwilling or unable to take on the responsibility of caring for another child. She was an adult, but obviously made some rather irresponsible choices. She knew all about being pregnant, having previously given birth and previously had at least five -- FIVE - abortions. She lied to her family and friends denying her pregnancy and claiming it was a fibroid problem. As she got bigger, though, it was more difficult for her to maintain the ruse. She was not going to her regular Obstetrics appointments - no tests, no ultrasounds, nothing. So, she had no idea that she was actually pregnant with two fetuses - twins.

Being 33 weeks pregnant (which is easily a preemie, if born) she began to look into adoption. So, this is not a situation where the evil Republicans are the ones in the way of her getting a legal abortion. No first world country (or almost none) would give her an abortion at 33 weeks. Thirty-three (33) weeks. I've held a 33 week newborn in my hands (well, seen it in intensive care and then later held it in my hands) - not my own child, but a relative's. That's a baby. She, herself, said she wanted to get the baby born right away, because she knew other people who had health babies born at 33 weeks.

Her plan, she said, was to go to a hotel, take a bunch of labor inducing pills, and deliver her 33-week-old fetus and take the baby to Arkansas Children’s Hospital where she believed it would have a good chance of survival and could be adopted to a family in a better position to raise the child. Why in the world she wouldn't just let the baby develop another 5 to 8 weeks and have the damn thing is beyond me. I mean, did she think she was helping the baby by taking labor-inducing pills?

She spent three days taking forty four (44) labor inducing pills trying to get the baby born. It didn't work, so she went back home. She then had the baby, which she said was dead when it was born, and she put it in a plastic bag. She then went to bed. She then woke up a few hours later and took the dead preemie to the hospital.

The crime she was charged with relates to concealing a newborn so as to prevent a determination of whether the baby was born alive, which she effectively did. Nobody could know if the baby was alive when she gave birth. She probably fucked it up enough with 44 labor inducing pills,though, where it's better off that it didn't survive.

Anyway, it's a sad situation all around, and she plainly has some mental problems that require significant professional help. In addition to five abortions, and the inability to get a job over "minimum wage" (as she said) even though she had a college degree, she was nailed for DUI too. So, she's got no money - middle aged - already with a son that relies on her - living at home - and out drinking and fucking to the point that her mother apparently was ready to kick her out of the house.

Does this make me want to see her do time in jail? No. I'm not a big fan of prison for anyone, much less a nutbag, dumbass hick who drinks and fucks her way through five (5) abortions. I feel bad for her, and I feel bad for her son - what an anchor to be born with, a mother like that. Horrible. But, she doesn't need jail, she needs help. Serious, significant help. She needs her tubes tied, too. I wouldn't mandate it, but any reasonable person would have already had a tubal ligation long before her fifth abortion.

And, the southern religious right Republican asshats do have some pointless views about abortion. However, nothing in abortion law really has anything to do with this, because no first world law would permit an abortion at 33 weeks. Moreover, this lady knew how to get abortions - she had five - and she could have had one five or 6 months earlier. She wasn't a teenager with no transportation.

As someone who has twice been in the delivery room - as someone who has twice attended every obstetrics appointment with my wife without fail -- as someone who has seen every ultrasound at every stage of pregnancy and as someone who knows first-hand what a 33 week fetus and preemie looks like in the neonatal intensive care unit - I will tell you that what she did is not something to be applauded. I feel bad for her, and I wish she wasn't jailed. Only, I feel worse for the baby she probably killed, and I feel worse for her son, and I feel worse for her mother.

The video leaves a lot of the story out.
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Rum wrote:
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Conservatives love the idea of reducing legislation, making government ‘smaller’ and all of that. The fact is that an increasingly complex and interconnected world you can’t manage without the paper that regulates nearly all of it. Even expenditure on that holiest of holy grails for targeting, welfare, goes up and up under their steely hard stare.
Just make criticism of welfare programs a hate crime, and you are good to go!
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