Election 2016 Thread

[JimC]

Since it's appropriate to judge a candidate by who its supporters are, take note that the Communist Part of the US strongly supports Hillary Clinton. I have not heard her disavow their support. Does she disavow the support of the group which calls for violent overthrow of the American government? http://peoplesworld.org/landslide-in-november/

Precisely which part of the US is communist, pray tell?

[Hermit]

Since it's appropriate to judge a candidate by who its supporters are, take note that the Communist Part of the US strongly supports Hillary Clinton. I have not heard her disavow their support. Does she disavow the support of the group which calls for violent overthrow of the American government? http://peoplesworld.org/landslide-in-november/

Precisely which part of the US is communist, pray tell?

Obama, apparently, is one of many. As for judging a candidate by who its supporters are, take note that the KKK of the US strongly supports Donald Trump. Oh, and Vlad Putin.

[pErvinalia]

Since it's appropriate to judge a candidate by who its supporters are,

Trump supporters - FortyTwo and the American Nazi Party. American Nazi Party leader sees 'a real opportunity' with a Trump presidency

[Tero]

[Forty Two]

Since it's appropriate to judge a candidate by who its supporters are, take note that the Communist Part of the US strongly supports Hillary Clinton. I have not heard her disavow their support. Does she disavow the support of the group which calls for violent overthrow of the American government? http://peoplesworld.org/landslide-in-november/

Precisely which part of the US is communist, pray tell?

LOL "party"

At the communist party, everyone is required to have exactly the same amount of fun.

[Forty Two]

Since it's appropriate to judge a candidate by who its supporters are, take note that the Communist Part of the US strongly supports Hillary Clinton. I have not heard her disavow their support. Does she disavow the support of the group which calls for violent overthrow of the American government? http://peoplesworld.org/landslide-in-november/

Precisely which part of the US is communist, pray tell?

Obama, apparently, is one of many. As for judging a candidate by who its supporters are, take note that the KKK of the US strongly supports Donald Trump. Oh, and Vlad Putin.

That was the point of my raising the issue. Hillary isn't a communist just because the communists support her. Likewise, Trump is not a racist because a racist group supports him.

[Forty Two]

The Ku Kux Klan disavows violence on its official documents and publications, too.

Inherent in Communism is the violent overthrow of the government.

So you cannot support your assertion that the Communist Party USA "calls for violent overthrow of the American government," and resort instead to generalized mumblings about what's "inherent in Communism" and comparison to the KKK. We know about the KKK's violent actions. Being unable to show any evidence that the Communist Party USA has called for the violent overthrow of the American government, can you at least cite evidence of violent actions taken by its members? You're not covering yourself in glory here, but maybe you can present something that shows you're not talking out of your ass.

We know about Communists' violent actions too. Unless your head is buried in the sand, of course.

And, if you're talking about only specifically the organization named Communist Party USA, well only one group of KKK-ers supported trump.

One of the biggest violent acts involving communists and other far left folks is the 1999 Seattle World Trade Organization Riots. This is basic stuff in communism -- they support the "class struggle" and it is understood that the way to throw off the oppressors (aristocracy, bourgeois, etc.) is through violent uprising. They like to throw bricks through windows, set fires, and such, to combat what they oppose: capitalism (which is the free exchange of goods and services at market prices for a profit, and the lawful ownership of private property).

It's not just violent acts -- it's their horrid ideology that makes the communist parties abhorrent to any thinking, rational human being. The policies espoused are oppressive, tyrannical, anti-liberty, anti-freedom, anti-individualism, confiscatory and ultimately totalitarian. Just go to their websites and read what they adhere to. Top on the list of communists' goals is to eliminate the ability of a person to make a profit - they want to make that illegal -- like, you want to bake cookies at a cost of 10 cents each and sell them for 20 cents each, that would be illegal. They want all rents to be paid to the government, and no private landlords - so that vacation rental that you might want to maintain, and use yourself for a couple of weeks in the summer but rent out the rest of the year - nope -- illegal under communism. And, of course, no private property at all, so your home would not be yours, etc. And, they want to seize the property of emigrants and anyone who dissents against the majority. Dissent goes away in communism -- they want to eliminate the lone voice in the sea of majority opinion.

That's basic stuff in communism - not controversial. If you say "that's not communism" -- you're wrong. It's as much communism as "equality for women" is part of feminism.

[Scot Dutchy]

What a load of bollocks but are we surprised?
















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[Forty Two]

What a load of bollocks but are we surprised?

Really, in your world communism is a peaceful movement, dedicated to the free exchange of goods and services for a profit, private property, low taxes, and the rights of the individual?

What've I got wrong?

[Scot Dutchy]

Everything but never mind we are used to it.

[Forty Two]

Everything but never mind we are used to it.

So, by everything, you mean, for example, the assertion that communism opposes private property and free exchange of goods and services at a profit?

That's part of what I wrote, so by "everything" you must mean that too.

So, in Dutchy Communism, private property is allowed, and communism involves the free exchange of goods and services for profit.

Got it.

[Animavore]

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/201 ... ecast/#now

[Forty Two]

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/201 ... ecast/#now

yep not looking good for Trump.

The Wang's outfit, the Princeton Election Consortium, has her solidly in the lead too. http://election.princeton.edu/category/2016-election/

Fivethirtyeight and the PEC are the two best sources for polls, because they use and analyze many polls statistically.

[Brian Peacock]

Everything but never mind we are used to it.

So, by everything, you mean, for example, the assertion that communism opposes private property and free exchange of goods and services at a profit?

That's part of what I wrote, so by "everything" you must mean that too.

So, in Dutchy Communism, private property is allowed, and communism involves the free exchange of goods and services for profit.

Got it.

Put that communist bogyman back under the bed. The US Communist Party is entirely irrelevant in the US, just as Communism is in contemporary Western politics.

[Scot Dutchy]

Everything but never mind we are used to it.

So, by everything, you mean, for example, the assertion that communism opposes private property and free exchange of goods and services at a profit?

That's part of what I wrote, so by "everything" you must mean that too.

So, in Dutchy Communism, private property is allowed, and communism involves the free exchange of goods and services for profit.

Got it.

Laughing at yourself I take it. For realising your great lack of knowledge.