Liberal Paedophilia Kiddy Sex-Dolls

[pErvinalia]

Cure clearly means to remove the medical problem. If psychiatry removes depression and anxiety, then it is curing it. Doesn't matter whether there are "biomarkers" (whatever that's supposed to be) or not.

[pErvinalia]

I guess the pertinent question is: Do you believe that depression etc are real medical problems? I'm guessing you don't?

[pErvinalia]

I am not sure you are aware but now we are debating what it means "to cure". If you mean that taking pills prevents one from being depressed is "curing" I call it "drugging".

If I take an antibiotic to get rid of a bacterial infection is that curing or drugging?

[tuco]

Define: medical problem, first. Its a problem that I recognize. I also recognize it has physical causes, because how else. I do not know if it can be cured. I am under impression that alcoholism, for example, cannot be cured. One can only stick to abstinence but the underlying problem is still there.

The thing is that mental disorders/illnesses are generally defined as: .. is mental or behavioral pattern that causes either suffering or a poor ability to function in ordinary life. - wiki. Hence the problem .. function in ordinary life .. which implies role of society. On schizophrenic island it could be those without schizophrenia fitting the definition as they would be abnormal. Those with haemorrhoids will have illness there too because its illness regardless of society.

Now let me repeat, because I am not answering robot:

Well, perhaps if this interests anyone (does not interest me much) we could have separate topic on "What psychiatry can cure" because to my knowledge its little to none.

[pErvinalia]

This is ratz, not ratskep. Derails are generally fine here.

[pErvinalia]

Define: medical problem, first. Its a problem that I recognize. I also recognize it has physical causes, because how else. I do not know if it can be cured. I am under impression that alcoholism, for example, cannot be cured. One can only stick to abstinence but the underlying problem is still there.

The thing is that mental disorders/illnesses are generally defined as: .. is mental or behavioral pattern that causes either suffering or a poor ability to function in ordinary life. - wiki. Hence the problem .. function in ordinary life .. which implies role of society. On schizophrenic island it could be those without schizophrenia fitting the definition as they would be abnormal. Those with haemorrhoids will have illness there too because its illness regardless of society.

A bacterial infection is also an arbitrary definition. When you take antibiotics, you don't kill all the bacteria in an infection. You just reduce them to below an arbitrary threshold at which "infection" isn't an appropriate label.

So given that, and the fact that there's no difference between taking a pill to cure a bacterial infection and a pill to cure anxiety attacks, you need to start addressing these problems in your thesis.

[laklak]

Lets get back to fucking robots. I want a Fuckinator F-1000. Liquid metal, can turn into anything I want. Woman, man, sheep, pig, Stegosaurus, Hillary Clinton....endless possibilities.

[Rum]

I found the web site mentioned in the OP. It is pretty damn creepy, though not pornographic. It also says (rather unconvincingly) that 'this is not a sex doll', by which one assumes there are no genitalia.

Right - enough of that!

[tuco]

Yes, this:

Japanese porn company, Trottla, is producing lifelike female child sex dolls, claiming that they will “save children from sexual abuse.” The argument behind these dolls is that men will use them instead of raping an actual little girl — that using these pornified dolls* will “satiate” their desires.

was the issue. Without some research, what can we say? I like yellow you like blue. To me it makes sense, that for example child porn can satisfy some would who could not be satisfied otherwise. Now the problem is that for child porn to exist, either children need to be abused or it would be just illusion.

[JimC]

Define: medical problem, first. Its a problem that I recognize. I also recognize it has physical causes, because how else. I do not know if it can be cured. I am under impression that alcoholism, for example, cannot be cured. One can only stick to abstinence but the underlying problem is still there.

The thing is that mental disorders/illnesses are generally defined as: .. is mental or behavioral pattern that causes either suffering or a poor ability to function in ordinary life. - wiki. Hence the problem .. function in ordinary life .. which implies role of society. On schizophrenic island it could be those without schizophrenia fitting the definition as they would be abnormal. Those with haemorrhoids will have illness there too because its illness regardless of society.

A bacterial infection is also an arbitrary definition. When you take antibiotics, you don't kill all the bacteria in an infection. You just reduce them to below an arbitrary threshold at which "infection" isn't an appropriate label.

So given that, and the fact that there's no difference between taking a pill to cure a bacterial infection and a pill to cure anxiety attacks, you need to start addressing these problems in your thesis.

There may be a real difference in some cases. With the antibiotic, (given that it works, and there isn't a resistance problem), bringing the bacterial population down to a level where the body's own defences can take care of the rest, then one is cured of that particular infection, and the pills can stop. With at least some psychiatric conditions, a course of drugs may well remove the symptoms for as long as you keep taking the pills, but they may re-emerge when you stop taking the pills. That is a significant difference.

Having said that, I'm sure that there are some psychiatric conditions where an appropriate combination of therapies of various kinds can effect a permanent cure. There are other conditions, however, where alleviating symptoms is the best that can be achieved; the same is true, of course, for a range of other medical problems...

[pErvinalia]

Define: medical problem, first. Its a problem that I recognize. I also recognize it has physical causes, because how else. I do not know if it can be cured. I am under impression that alcoholism, for example, cannot be cured. One can only stick to abstinence but the underlying problem is still there.

The thing is that mental disorders/illnesses are generally defined as: .. is mental or behavioral pattern that causes either suffering or a poor ability to function in ordinary life. - wiki. Hence the problem .. function in ordinary life .. which implies role of society. On schizophrenic island it could be those without schizophrenia fitting the definition as they would be abnormal. Those with haemorrhoids will have illness there too because its illness regardless of society.

A bacterial infection is also an arbitrary definition. When you take antibiotics, you don't kill all the bacteria in an infection. You just reduce them to below an arbitrary threshold at which "infection" isn't an appropriate label.

So given that, and the fact that there's no difference between taking a pill to cure a bacterial infection and a pill to cure anxiety attacks, you need to start addressing these problems in your thesis.

There may be a real difference in some cases. With the antibiotic, (given that it works, and there isn't a resistance problem), bringing the bacterial population down to a level where the body's own defences can take care of the rest, then one is cured of that particular infection, and the pills can stop. With at least some psychiatric conditions, a course of drugs may well remove the symptoms for as long as you keep taking the pills, but they may re-emerge when you stop taking the pills. That is a significant difference.

No one is saying the objective of psychiatry is to cure everything. Much of medicine is about managing illness. I take proton pump inhibitor tablets for out-of-control stomach acid. If I stop taking them the acid levels come up again. Using tuco's logic I will now just go on to claim that medicine isn't about curing it's about drugging.

[laklak]

I drink every day. That proves something, though exactly what I'm not sure.

[DaveDodo007]

Dodo isn't going to be happy with these lesbian feminazis and their hate campaign against men...

Erm.. So only men are peados right. I agree with JimC above in this will only help in normalizing such behaviour. Though if you want to see pro peado propaganda then check out the feminist lefty articles in Salon.com.

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/21/im_a_pe ... a_monster/

Conservatives are monsters for objecting to peadophilia, you couldn't make this shit up as we are dealing with lefty/liberal kidfuckers here.

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/30/im_a_pe ... e_machine/

The anti-gamergate twats are full of peados which they defend to the hilt, the labour party had members of some organization that was pro peado but why bother giving you links as you are in balls deep in an ideology and evidence, facts and reality mean nothing to you as the narrative is all.

[DaveDodo007]

Jesus fucking Christ eRv I have seem feminists articles accusing an eight year old boy of raping a teacher and female peados get suspended sentences from raping their male pupils. which wouldn't happen if the cases were reversed. Talk about deluded, this is you personified.

[pErvinalia]

Jesus fucking Christ eRv I have seem feminists articles accusing an eight year old boy of raping a teacher

Shirley you can't be serious! And don't call me eRv!!