What is meaningless?

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Re: What is meaningless?

Post by Gonzo » Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:07 am

Are you trying to be... mean?
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Re: What is meaningless?

Post by JimC » Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:07 am

Unreal, man...
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Post by Seth » Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:17 am

What do you mean?
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Post by Gonzo » Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:18 am

You know what I mean.
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Re: What is meaningless?

Post by JimC » Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:18 am

Mean is fairly average, IMO...
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Post by Seth » Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:21 am

I think you mean more than you are willing to say.
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Re: What is meaningless?

Post by JimC » Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:26 am

In the meantime, back in the everyday world, the philosophers have downed pens and are having a cup of tea....
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Re: What is meaningless?

Post by Seth » Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:54 am

JimC wrote:In the meantime, back in the everyday world, the philosophers have downed pens and are having a cup of tea....
What is "meantime?" Is it time you spend being nasty?
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Re: What is meaningless?

Post by Hermit » Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:18 am

jamest wrote:
mistermack wrote:And ref your last post, I don't think anyone on this forum thinks that their statements can be considered absolute truth. If I make a statement, I regard it as common sense that that it's just what I think.
You cannot hold that opinion without rejecting the notion of absolute truth, which itself would be an absolute truth. Catch 22, again.
Maybe you can't but people with more than two brain cells can. The clue is in the first two words: "I think" and the last six: "it's just what I think". Stick with being a taxi driver. You'll never make the grade as a philosopher, and certainly not one attempting to lecture anyone when logic is involved.
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Re: What is meaningless?

Post by surreptitious57 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:33 am

jamest wrote:
I would like to see an atheist attempt to reconcile objective meaning and value with materialism / physicalism
Objective meaning can only equate to physical existence but no more. For once you start asking questions about why
something exists as opposed to how it exists you are ascribing some meaning or purpose to it. That is the point where
objectivity goes out the window because interpretation is by nature subjective. I know that I exist. I know that I shall
die at some point. I know that when I do I shall remain dead forever. All that is a simple objective analysis of my own
existence / non existence. It is so since I have only referenced factual information here. I have not offered an opinion
on it. So it is possible for me as an atheist to provide objective perspective on my own existence in the physical world
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Re: What is meaningless?

Post by rachelbean » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:48 am

I feel like when I answered the original question I was sitting at a pub with some friends and discussing something I found interesting. Then a drunk university student came up and started lecturing us all on where we were wrong and why, and then I didn't want to finish my pint.
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Re: What is meaningless?

Post by jamest » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:54 am

We're in the General Serious Discussion & Philosophy forum and debating the concept of meaning, and a bunch of people are annoyed because someone who has a clue has undermined everything that they've had to say on the matter to the point that they're resorting to snide comments. Well fuck me, and then go and fuck yourselves.

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Re: What is meaningless?

Post by Svartalf » Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:54 am

Wrong answer, you must always finish your pint, if by flinging it at the botherjob. (and preferably only if it's bad beer, you don't waste good ale that way)
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Re: What is meaningless?

Post by laklak » Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:22 pm

I mean, like, srsly?
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: What is meaningless?

Post by laklak » Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:29 pm

Seth wrote: Sixty-one years has been hard enough thanks, I don't need no stinking eternity...unless it includes shagging Emma Watson on a regular basis...
Same age here, it's had it's difficult moments. I'm hoping for another 30 or so. Most of the males in my family make it into their late 80s or early 90s, and are generally in pretty good shape for old farts. Inventing meaning is a full time job, it would be easy enough to fall into ennui without a concerted effort.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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