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Re: response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 att

Post by Feck » Sun May 09, 2010 9:30 pm

Ian wrote: Because they have a dim, pessimistic view of human nature.
Probably because they have a dim, pessimistic view of themselves.

There is plenty of real stuff to be pessimistic about
But believing that EVERYTHING is a conspiracy is just for the ATS sad sacks .
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Re: response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 att

Post by amused » Sun May 09, 2010 9:54 pm

@Feck - Are you a tagger? (your sig)

I think it would be a good idea to put up walls in parks and let the taggers have at it. When it's covered, photograph it, whitewash it and start over. It's probably more controlled than what taggers would want, but over time the photographs would be a cool history.

We did a project in one of the alleys in Austin where we invited the taggers with the higher reputations to do their art on the walls. It stayed clean for longer than if we'd left it plain paint.

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Re: response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 att

Post by Feck » Sun May 09, 2010 10:30 pm

Tom Wood wrote:@Feck - Are you a tagger? (your sig)

I think it would be a good idea to put up walls in parks and let the taggers have at it. When it's covered, photograph it, whitewash it and start over. It's probably more controlled than what taggers would want, but over time the photographs would be a cool history.

We did a project in one of the alleys in Austin where we invited the taggers with the higher reputations to do their art on the walls. It stayed clean for longer than if we'd left it plain paint.

No It's a quote from Banksy .


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Re: response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 att

Post by Pappa » Sun May 09, 2010 10:32 pm

Feck wrote:
Tom Wood wrote:@Feck - Are you a tagger? (your sig)

I think it would be a good idea to put up walls in parks and let the taggers have at it. When it's covered, photograph it, whitewash it and start over. It's probably more controlled than what taggers would want, but over time the photographs would be a cool history.

We did a project in one of the alleys in Austin where we invited the taggers with the higher reputations to do their art on the walls. It stayed clean for longer than if we'd left it plain paint.

No It's a quote from Banksy .


I would never deface property that could be Illegal :shock:
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Re: response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 att

Post by orpheus » Sun May 09, 2010 11:04 pm

Rum wrote:
Tom Wood wrote:People who believe in the god of the bible WANT to live in a world with a psychotic bastard in charge.

People who want to believe 911 conspiracies WANT to live in a world where such an improbable grand conspiracy is possible.

Why do they want such a perverse world?
The truth is actually rather more scary. Really bad things happen mostly because people constantly fuck up.
Yes. That's it, I think.

A world where a psychotic bastard is in charge, and one where a grand conspiracy is possible - both are worlds in which you can point to a higher power that organizes things.
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Post by amused » Mon May 10, 2010 12:35 am

Pappa wrote:
Feck wrote:
Tom Wood wrote:@Feck - Are you a tagger? (your sig)

I think it would be a good idea to put up walls in parks and let the taggers have at it. When it's covered, photograph it, whitewash it and start over. It's probably more controlled than what taggers would want, but over time the photographs would be a cool history.

We did a project in one of the alleys in Austin where we invited the taggers with the higher reputations to do their art on the walls. It stayed clean for longer than if we'd left it plain paint.

No It's a quote from Banksy .


I would never deface property that could be Illegal :shock:
Me neither. :shifty:
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Re: response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 att

Post by JimC » Mon May 10, 2010 7:03 am

orpheus wrote:
Rum wrote:
Tom Wood wrote:People who believe in the god of the bible WANT to live in a world with a psychotic bastard in charge.

People who want to believe 911 conspiracies WANT to live in a world where such an improbable grand conspiracy is possible.

Why do they want such a perverse world?
The truth is actually rather more scary. Really bad things happen mostly because people constantly fuck up.
Yes. That's it, I think.

A world where a psychotic bastard is in charge, and one where a grand conspiracy is possible - both are worlds in which you can point to a higher power that organizes things.
Mind you, in the real world, there are many little conspiracies - it is the hominid way...
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Re: response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 att

Post by Galaxian » Mon May 10, 2010 11:55 am

Thinking Aloud wrote:
Galaxian wrote:I don't know why I bother. I really don't. I post links & videos that people don't care to use. Then they ask the questions that those links/videos had already answered:
Coming to this discussion a little late, I haven't been paying attention to all the stuff that's come before. You could have replied "50th" or "70th" or whatever - that would have been really helpful.
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Thinking Aloud wrote:Seems a bit odd to say "fires were not an issue" when the amount of smoke and flame pouring out of both towers hinted slightly at there being a burning aeroplane in each one.
Are you sure that you're an impartial observer here?
Why shouldn't I be?
Galaxian wrote:Didn't you read about the black smoke indicating low temperature?
Nope. I'm going off the well-observed phenomenon of black smoke indicating burning aviation fuel.
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You give every impression of being insincere. All your questions are aimed at me. All your criticisms have been fully answered not just on this thread, but all over the internet. The towers were designed for plane impacts. Even NIST has admitted that the fuel was burned off with a few a minutes. All the damage was at the upper level. So you are dredging up even more points than the official agents. I won't waste more time on you. I've no wish to convert you. :coffee:
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Re: response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 att

Post by Thinking Aloud » Mon May 10, 2010 12:02 pm

Hokay. Whatever.

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Re: response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 att

Post by Galaxian » Mon May 10, 2010 12:11 pm

owtth wrote:
Thinking Aloud wrote:The flash is visible in this version of the same crash footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7eI4vvlupY
As seen in this still:
Picture 5.jpg
Probability of Galaxian ignoring this: HIGH
Probability of Galaxian referring to his earlier posting of ludicrously dodgy CGI as proof of his buttplucked theories: Very Very Low
No. Galaxian didn't ignore the clip or video. And Galaxian also DID notice TA's & your dishonest attempt to mislead the other members (as if they even needed that!). How does whistling in the dark placate you? Why does a lazy affiliation to ignorance satisfy you?
a) The flash is tiny compared with the 5m diameter flash of the airliner.
b) The flash comes a long time after the impact; not a short time before...did you notice that? The flash is infact at 13 secs, just ahead of the cockpit, long after the plane has already concertinaed into the concrete wall.
Didn't the above points impress themselves on you? Of course not. And they won't now. Youve an agenda you'd lie for. :eddy:
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Re: response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 att

Post by Galaxian » Mon May 10, 2010 12:14 pm

Rum wrote:Has he been warned? There is a lot of personal abuse in those quotes.
Do not discuss moderating issues on threads. You've derailed the thread with every post you've ever made. Stay OT! :tea:
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Post by Bella Fortuna » Mon May 10, 2010 12:15 pm

Galaxian wrote:
Rum wrote:Has he been warned? There is a lot of personal abuse in those quotes.
Do not discuss moderating issues on threads. You've derailed the thread with every post you've ever made. Stay OT! :tea:
Excuse me, if you haven't noticed, this whole forum is practically OT.
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Re: response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 att

Post by Pappa » Mon May 10, 2010 12:20 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:
Galaxian wrote:
Rum wrote:Has he been warned? There is a lot of personal abuse in those quotes.
Do not discuss moderating issues on threads. You've derailed the thread with every post you've ever made. Stay OT! :tea:
Excuse me, if you haven't noticed, this whole forum is practically OT.
Just to add.... much of this thread is tl:dr for the mods. If you notice any specific personal attacks by anyone, please report them using the report button. I think we've caught everything so far, and people have been reminded to stick to the rules.
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Re: response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 att

Post by Galaxian » Mon May 10, 2010 12:26 pm

Pappa wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:
Galaxian wrote:
Rum wrote:Has he been warned? There is a lot of personal abuse in those quotes.
Do not discuss moderating issues on threads. You've derailed the thread with every post you've ever made. Stay OT! :tea:
Excuse me, if you haven't noticed, this whole forum is practically OT.
Just to add.... much of this thread is tl:dr for the mods. If you notice any specific personal attacks by anyone, please report them using the report button. I think we've caught everything so far, and people have been reminded to stick to the rules.
Thank you Pappa. I keep hoping for a serious discussion, but keep getting slapstick tomfoolery. 9/11 deserves better :td:
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Re: response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 att

Post by charlou » Mon May 10, 2010 12:27 pm

Galaxian wrote:Didn't the above points impress themselves on you? Of course not. And they won't now. Youve an agenda you'd lie for. :eddy:
Final reminder, Galaxian. Discuss the topic without taking gratuitous jabs at other posters. Another instance like this and your account will be suspended.
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