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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by Forty Two » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:37 pm

pErvin wrote:One of them allegedly said "shit" in front of a twelve year old girl!
I know, it's nothing until someone asks her where she's from, or tells her she speaks English well. THEN it would be hate speech.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by Forty Two » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:43 pm

Animavore wrote:The right have lost the plot. When gays and brown people are shot they are silent. Same too when Jewish graves are vandalised. Not a peep out of them when Trump supporters literally throw Nazi salutes. No outrage on Fox news when people are advocating a Liberal genocide.

But someone punches a Nazi shit right in his hateful gob and it's all, "Whoa! Steady on. We need to protect free speech. Libruls are scum destroying our country."
Liberal is not left. Liberals are not scum. Leftists are scum, because they believe in an illiberal, scummy ideology. Liberals are great.

The far right have lost the plot and we've known that for a long time. However, their views are not shared by the mainstream, and people don't engage in Apologetics for violence against gays and brown people. The vast majority of people know that's wrong, and nobody is actually arguing that it is the morally right thing to do to beat up gays and blacks.

On the other hand, not only are leftists taking it upon themselves to do violence against their political opponents. They are apologized for by the more moderate folks, and it's becoming more and more mainstream --- they're showing videos along these lines to kids on MTV -- more and more mainstream to argue that it is not only morally right, but also morally imperative, to do violence against political opponents. That's the difference.

There are hardly any Nazis in the US, and the KKK is almost nonexistent. There is very little in the way of "far right" in the US. What the left does is lie through their teeth and claim that Trump supporters are Nazis and white supremacists, and they are arguing that as such they ought be beaten up.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by Forty Two » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:43 pm

NineBerry wrote:
Forty Two wrote: There is only so long one can see a daily dose of this bullshit without concluding that the leftists have lost the plot completely.
Just stop visiting the sites that keep posting stories on this topic.
It's mainstream news. It's so common, it can't be gotten away from.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by Forty Two » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:45 pm

NineBerry wrote:
JimC wrote:To be fair to 42, American unis seem to have a fair amount of this OTT nonsense. However, my bet is that it gets reported widely because it's basically funny, but has little real impact on how uni students operate, and virtually no impact in the broader community.
It gets published because it gets a lot of people visiting the news article and commenting, making the owner of these news sites terribly rich and worthy of being decapitated after the revolution.


It gets published because the left are turning into a train wreck. It's hard to keep your eyes off them. And, it's one thing more and more ridiculous than the last. Fuck, there was an article yesterday of the movement to make white people, specifically white males, pay a higher income tax because they're privileged. I mean, this is the horseshit we're faced with over here. Every day there is something new.
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Post by Strontium Dog » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:07 pm

Forty Two wrote:The far right have lost the plot and we've known that for a long time. However, their views are not shared by the mainstream
I don't know how you can say this when Donald Trump has just been elected President of the United States. You don't get much more mainstream than that.
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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by Forty Two » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:26 pm

Strontium Dog wrote:
Forty Two wrote:The far right have lost the plot and we've known that for a long time. However, their views are not shared by the mainstream
I don't know how you can say this when Donald Trump has just been elected President of the United States. You don't get much more mainstream than that.
Yes, but it's only lost-plot leftists who call Donald Trump "far right" when he was to the left of most of the Republican field of other candidates. He was not nearly as conservative as Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio.

What is it that you consider "far right?"

The left paints Trump as a racist and a nazi, but that's one of the ways the left has lost the plot.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Post by NineBerry » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:31 pm

Forty Two wrote:
NineBerry wrote:
Forty Two wrote: There is only so long one can see a daily dose of this bullshit without concluding that the leftists have lost the plot completely.
Just stop visiting the sites that keep posting stories on this topic.
It's mainstream news. It's so common, it can't be gotten away from.
"heatst.com" is certainly not mainstream.

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Post by Forty Two » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:47 pm

That's not the only source. Just one of many.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by NineBerry » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:51 pm

One of many non-mainstream sites that you visit specifically for these type of stories.

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Re: Problematic Stuff

Post by JimC » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:21 pm

Forty Two wrote:
NineBerry wrote:
JimC wrote:To be fair to 42, American unis seem to have a fair amount of this OTT nonsense. However, my bet is that it gets reported widely because it's basically funny, but has little real impact on how uni students operate, and virtually no impact in the broader community.
It gets published because it gets a lot of people visiting the news article and commenting, making the owner of these news sites terribly rich and worthy of being decapitated after the revolution.


It gets published because the left are turning into a train wreck. It's hard to keep your eyes off them. And, it's one thing more and more ridiculous than the last. Fuck, there was an article yesterday of the movement to make white people, specifically white males, pay a higher income tax because they're privileged. I mean, this is the horseshit we're faced with over here. Every day there is something new.
This is simply from a tiny, whacky end of the political bell curve, and has no other real effect other than to keep choleric individuals such as yourself on the emotional boil...
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:12 pm

Forty Two wrote: There is very little in the way of "far right" in the US.
Your government is far right. :think:
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Post by JimC » Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:31 pm

pErvin wrote:
Forty Two wrote: There is very little in the way of "far right" in the US.
Your government is far right. :think:
I think he meant people who sneer at Himmler for being too soft...
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Post by Hermit » Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:34 am

JimC wrote:
pErvin wrote:
Forty Two wrote: There is very little in the way of "far right" in the US.
Your government is far right. :think:
I think he meant people who sneer at Himmler for being too soft...
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:11 am

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:24 pm

The similarities between the two are quite considerable.
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