Why Isn't Communism Viewed As Negatively as Nazism?

[Forty Two]

Which societies are those?

Capitalist Western Europe , capitalist British commonwealth countries and the US etc.

You guys going to argue that “surplus bakers” are lucky to find work there?

Go for it! Argue away!

[Scot Dutchy]

Features of communism? Everything that is not capitalism.

[rainbow]

You guys going to argue that “surplus bakers” are lucky to find work there?

Go for it! Argue away!

From the handbook of how to set up a strawman argument.

[pErvinalia]

PErvin quick on the draw with “no true communism” argument, lol


Ok PErvin- describe actual communism. Link? Summary? What are the features of communism, and what would a communist country look like, if it really existed?

Deflection...personal attack... insult. 3, 2, 1.....

Look it up in wiki, ffs. You know very well that USSR type socialism is nothing like ideological communism. Not least because communism requires the abolition of the state.

[Scot Dutchy]

A communist country would be a damn sight better than the USA that's for sure.

[Forty Two]

PErvin quick on the draw with “no true communism” argument, lol


Ok PErvin- describe actual communism. Link? Summary? What are the features of communism, and what would a communist country look like, if it really existed?

Deflection...personal attack... insult. 3, 2, 1.....

Look it up in wiki, ffs. You know very well that USSR type socialism is nothing like ideological communism. Not least because communism requires the abolition of the state.

The Soviet Union was nothing like communism. Lol. Prove your own absurdity, dude. “Look it up” ain’t an argument.

But this is now something you can say, if it comes up again later, that you’ve “explained it all before” or it’s already been “demonstrated.” This is the most you ever do....

[Forty Two]

A communist country would be a damn sight better than the USA that's for sure.

You are ignorant about the US, and even moreso about communism. At least you’re not arguing that communist countries are really right wing fascist dictatorships which have been falsely labeled communist for the past century in order to give the benevolent communist ideology a bad name... you, at least, are not trying to make that claim. Round of applause for that.

[PsychoSerenity]

[Brian Peacock]

A communist country would be a damn sight better than the USA that's for sure.

You are ignorant about the US, and even moreso about communism. At least you’re not arguing that communist countries are really right wing fascist dictatorships which have been falsely labeled communist for the past century in order to give the benevolent communist ideology a bad name... you, at least, are not trying to make that claim. Round of applause for that.

You didn't ask for an argument, but a description.

[pErvinalia]

A communist country would be a damn sight better than the USA that's for sure.

You are ignorant about the US, and even moreso about communism. At least you’re not arguing that communist countries are really right wing fascist dictatorships which have been falsely labeled communist for the past century in order to give the benevolent communist ideology a bad name... you, at least, are not trying to make that claim. Round of applause for that.

Who's making that claim?

[pErvinalia]

PErvin quick on the draw with “no true communism” argument, lol


Ok PErvin- describe actual communism. Link? Summary? What are the features of communism, and what would a communist country look like, if it really existed?

Deflection...personal attack... insult. 3, 2, 1.....

Look it up in wiki, ffs. You know very well that USSR type socialism is nothing like ideological communism. Not least because communism requires the abolition of the state.

It's hard to tell if you really are ignorant, or whether you just do this sort of thing to annoy everyone.

In political and social sciences, communism (from Latin communis, "common, universal")[1][2] is the philosophical, social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of the communist society, which is a socioeconomic order structured upon the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money[3][4] and the state.[5][6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

Following the communist revolution, Marx argued, workers (the proletariat) would take control of the means of production. After a period of transition, the government would fade away, as workers build a classless society and an economy based on common ownership. Production and consumption would reach an equilibrium: "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need." Religion and the family, institutions of social control that were used to subjugate the working class, would go the way of the government and private ownership. (See 3 Lessons Karl Marx Teaches Us.)

Marx's revolutionary ideology inspired 20th-century movements that fought for, and in some cases won, control of governments. The Bolshevik revolution in 1917 overthrew the Russian czar and following a civil war established the Soviet Union, a nominally communist empire that collapsed in 1991. The Soviet Union was only "nominally" communist because, while ruled by the Communist Party, it did not achieve a classless, stateless society in which the population collectively owned the means of production. (See also, Command Economy.)

In fact, for the first four decades of the Soviet Union's existence, the Party explicitly acknowledged that it had not created a communist society. Until 1961, the Party's official stance was that the Soviet Union was governed by the "dictatorship of the proletariat," an intermediate stage along the inevitable progression towards the final stage of human evolution: true communism. In 1961, Premier Nikita Krushchev declared that the Soviet state had begun "withering away," though it would persist for another three decades. When it did collapse in 1991, it was supplanted by a nominally democratic, capitalist system.

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answer ... ialism.asp

[Scot Dutchy]

We have never had true communism and we wont until greed is removed from society. 1% of the world's population will own in 2030 two thirds of the global wealth. From greed comes the need for control. This is what is happening in America. The 1% is controlling American society but the masses dont see it. They are toadstools and are kept in dark and fed a load of shit.

[Brian Peacock]

That's the thing with communism though, why it will never work - people like to own stuff.

[Scot Dutchy]

That's the thing with communism though, why it will never work - people like to own stuff.

That is just a primitive emotion: the have.

[Svartalf]

What's wrong with keeping a bit of primitive in a modern society? remember our roots and all...