R terms like "white guilt" & "self-loathing" empty rhetoric?

[pErvinalia]

Go back and reread what Tyrannical wrote.

[Forty Two]

I think it's Merkin for Generation Y

It's "Generation Has it Cushier than Any Other in History, But Think They Have it Tough".

AKA "Generation Trigger Warning."

[pErvinalia]

About the only thing the current generation has easier is access to ridiculous amounts of credit. And that their parents are willing to share some of the comparatively easy wealth they made with the kiddies before the will.

[Tyrannical]

I tried not to use big words. I know you did go to school past age twelve. But give the reading another try, I'm sure you can do it.

I think you'll find "genocide" and "slavery" don't really equate to "uplifting".

Genocide, slavery, human sacrifice, cannabalism are all the things White colonialism put an end to. You've really no idea how savagely evil the black African was / is when left only on his own.

[pErvinalia]

Of course, Herr Hilter.

[Svartalf]

well, we did practice slavery and genocide frome the 1500s till the 1800s

[Forty Two]

About the only thing the current generation has easier is access to ridiculous amounts of credit. And that their parents are willing to share some of the comparatively easy wealth they made with the kiddies before the will.

Nonsense. They have more assistance, more subsidies, and fewer expectations upon them than any previous generation.

For example, they bitch about college, but they hardly even work in school anymore. Average credit load is like 12 credits a semester (four classes) - when I went to school 18 credits was common, and 15 the minimum. And, there has been documented "grade inflation" and reduction in standards, so college is far easier than it ever was. They claim to be the most educated generation, but they don't know dick.

They don't know how to work, and they don't think they have to, and they think other people have to cater to them.

[pErvinalia]

Blah blah blah. In the civilised world Baby Boomers had free education, plentiful secure jobs, and affordable housing. The current generation have none of that. Youth under-employment is upwards of 50%. Virtually everyone could get a job out of school or uni in the 60's. Wages have been stagnant more or less for decades now. You live in a fantasy world.

And none of this addresses my questions about wtf "white guilt" and "self loathing" are supposed to be.

[laklak]

Not to trot out the "back in my day" stories, but I will anyway. 1 full time and 1 part time job, full credit load in engineering school, a wife and a kid, living in a trailer in Union Park Florida. I don't think many of the little snowflakes I've run into around here could handle that. $600 a year in Pell grants, and some student loans. It can be done, but you have to really, really want it. Took me 6 years to finish, and I paid off the student loans in under 2 years.

Was talking to a kid down at the park the other afternoon, student at New College. She was complaining about how hard it was to make ends meet on just financial aid and student loans. No mention of working even part time, but she'll have over $30,000 in student debt when she graduates with a degree in Sociology. Wow, now there's something worth going into debt for, eh? Soci-fucking-ology. We fucking LOVED courses like that, because you didn't have to do shit to pass them. Their heads would explode if they took thermodynamics or differentials.

There are still plenty of kids doing the hard slog, though, in engineering, comp sci, medicine, etc, so not all of them are Precious Snowflakes. It's just the PS Brigade makes the most noise, the others are too fucking busy studying to bitch about it. If you're going to ride on Mummy-N-Daddy's coattails for four years to get a degree in Sociology or Feminist Studies then you've got no one to blame but yourself when you end up a shift manager at Micky D's.

[pErvinalia]

The jobs simply aren't there, Lak.

[Tyrannical]

Sociology majors that take out loans should go straight to the labor camps. They're dumb and broke and there's no fixing either of those.

[pErvinalia]

Yeah, coz where has understanding social relations ever got any of us?

[Forty Two]

Blah blah blah. In the civilised world Baby Boomers had free education,

Where? Baby boomers were in college from about 1963 to 1983, at the very latest. Where is this "free education" you speak of (referring to college, not taxpayer funded primary education)?

plentiful secure jobs,

Plentiful secure jobs in 1979 and 1980, when unemployment was in double-digits? When and where was this "Shangri-la" of which you speak. If anything, from 1965 to 1980, there were fewer legal protections than there are today. Every western democracy has dramatically expanded employee protections since baby boomers got out of school. It's not even close. I can't see how you make this argument with a straight face.

and affordable housing.

How in the world do you get this? Housing is way more affordable here now than it ever was. At least in a civilized country like the US. Here in the US, you can find a house or apartment in every price range. We recently, just a few years ago, had the largest percentage of Americans owning homes than ever in the history of the country. And, in the 60s and 70s, when boomers were buying their first houses, the price of homes was much harder to pay, because credit was much tighter, and you had to put far bigger down payments.

The current generation have none of that.

The current generation can walk into a bank with a $50,000 per year salary and get a $150,000 mortgage at 4% interest with $0 down or 5% down. In 1981, you would go into a bank and need 20% down, and pay 12 to 15% interest. It's not even close, rEv.

Youth under-employment is upwards of 50%.

You'll have to define "youth underemployment." All youth employment is part time in civilized countries like the US. Do you have a measure for when a youth is not working enough part-time hours? Or, when a kid earning minimum wage should be banking a couple bucks more?

Virtually everyone could get a job out of school or uni in the 60's.

They can now too. They just don't want to work hard. Baby boomers did what they had to do.
uWages have been stagnant more or less for decades now. You live in a fantasy world.[/quote]

There were periods of time of stagnant wages in the past. Inflation and interest rates have been record lows for decades now too. Back in 1980, we had the Carter Stagflation days, where interest rates were up over 10%, inflation up over 10% AND unemployment up over 10%, and gasoline prices doubled in a couple of years. You don't know what you're talking about.

And none of this addresses my questions about wtf "white guilt" and "self loathing" are supposed to be.

White guilt and self-loathing is what white males are supposed to feel because they are white. It's a concept being sold by racist leftists applying class theory to identity politics.

[Forty Two]

Yeah, coz where has understanding social relations ever got any of us?

You'll have to establish that getting a degree in Sociology provides one an understanding of social relations.

Also, where did it get us? You're the one who says things suck so bad now compared to generations past.

[Forty Two]

The jobs simply aren't there, Lak.

In civilized countries they are, but maybe not where you live.