Stephen Fry Attacks Victims of Child Sex Abuse

[Seth]

Well yes, that's another problem, they often want an exhaustive list of trigger warnings rather than just, "Contains graphic scenes." I wouldn't want such a list because they're bound to contain spoilers.

If I were a prof at the start of semester I'd ask who was an SJW and offer one of them the books to sift through as an assignment. I'd then put, "Trigger warning: contains spoilers" at the top as I hand it out.

How about, if a person has a psychiatric condition, they can report that to the professor who can discreetly accommodate the disability?

How about they get psychological counseling and get cured of their "disability" before they apply for admission rather than pester others to accommodate their mental weaknesses? Going to college is NOT an unalienable right and it's most certainly not for everyone, nor should it be. If you can't take the heat, don't go in the kitchen, go flip burgers or dig ditches or pick lettuce instead and leave college to those who can make good use of the investment in their education because they WON'T be fucking helpless mental cases.

[Forty Two]

Well, reasonable accommodation is a normal standard under disability law.

Having a job is not an inalienable right, either, but employers still must reasonably accommodate disabled workers.

[NineBerry]

Is there actually anyone who demands trigger warnings for work in an academic environment or are we discussing a non-issue?

I would expect that dealing with difficult topics is a major subject of literature, a work having difficult topics would not bar it from being the subject of a literature class. A student of literature should be prepared to hit upon controversial and extreme stuff during their studying.

For the normal customer content warnings might be helpful.

[Forty Two]

Is there actually anyone who demands trigger warnings for work in an academic environment or are we discussing a non-issue?

That's where trigger warnings got their start. Yes.

I would expect that dealing with difficult topics is a major subject of literature, a work having difficult topics would not bar it from being the subject of a literature class. A student of literature should be prepared to hit upon controversial and extreme stuff during their studying.

For the normal customer content warnings might be helpful.

They're largely useless.

[Seth]

Well, reasonable accommodation is a normal standard under disability law.

Well, presuming that a propensity to being "triggered" is defined in the law as a "disability," which it shouldn't be.

Having a job is not an inalienable right, either, but employers still must reasonably accommodate disabled workers.

The key word is "reasonably." It does not, as some liberal fascist cultural Marxists seem to insist mean "absolutely accommodate any vacuous psychological quirk an employee decides to demonstrate."

[Seth]

Is there actually anyone who demands trigger warnings for work in an academic environment or are we discussing a non-issue?

Yes. Go read a newspaper. Look up Oberlin College, or Harvard, or Yale or any of a dozen other institutions of "higher learning" these days. It's fucking ubiquitous these days.

[Seth]

Is there actually anyone who demands trigger warnings for work in an academic environment or are we discussing a non-issue?

That's where trigger warnings got their start. Yes.

I would expect that dealing with difficult topics is a major subject of literature, a work having difficult topics would not bar it from being the subject of a literature class. A student of literature should be prepared to hit upon controversial and extreme stuff during their studying.

For the normal customer content warnings might be helpful.

They're largely useless.

No, they are positively harmful, like warning stickers on ladders, because they encourage people to sue if they don't get the warning they think they should have gotten. If you stand on the top step of an aluminum ladder or lean it against a 7000 volt power line you fully deserve to be fried like a piece of chicken or break your neck because you're just too stupid to be permitted to survive, much less procreate. "Warning labels" are directly proportional to the increasing genetic stupidity of the human race because they allow people who should have been eaten by a saber-tooth lions as children to grow up to procreate a new generation of congenital idiots.

For the end result of such pandering to stupidity see "Idiocracy."

[devogue]

I remember my astonishment when I first heard about triggering on A+.

I thought then, and I still think, that it's the most wimpish, insidious, self-centred, dangerous load of bollocks I've ever heard. I'm actually completely with Seth on this one - it is frighteningly Orwellian. It is now one of the worst tools in the continuing overspill of societal tolerance for a new form of obnoxious, pathetic individualism:

I can't eat that, I'm banana intolerant (I don't like bananas)
My gender is fluid (look at me, look at me)
Describe the racism in this book (I can't bear to be distraught - will no one think of me?)
Get rid of that old statue of a racist (I'm so right, soooooo right)

It's like the fear of being guilty of islamophobia - everyone's scared to speak out because of fear of infringing someone's "rights". Fair play to the likes of Germaine Greer for having the courage to disagree with this nonsense.

[laklak]

If you want to help the poor little cupcakes then mercilessly troll the fuck out of them every chance you get. It's like aversion therapy; you have to be cruel to be kind. Instead of a Trump hat on the MLK statue put a Klan hood on him, or paint on a pair of big, white Al Jolsen blackface lips. If they mention gender fluidity ask if that's the same as being ac/dc. Tell the feminist with braided armpit hair she should try a little makeup and high heels if she wants to catch a man. Tell the emo boys to fucking man up and grow a pair, crying is for sissies.

EDIT I think a Klan hood on MLK would be fucking hilarious. Just imagine the reaction.

[devogue]

If you want to help the poor little cupcakes then mercilessly troll the fuck out of them every chance you get. It's like aversion therapy; you have to be cruel to be kind. Instead of a Trump hat on the MLK statue put a Klan hood on him, or paint on a pair of big, white Al Jolsen blackface lips. If they mention gender fluidity ask if that's the same as being ac/dc. Tell the feminist with braided armpit hair she should try a little makeup and high heels if she wants to catch a man. Tell the emo boys to fucking man up and grow a pair, crying is for sissies.

EDIT I think a Klan hood on MLK would be fucking hilarious. Just imagine the reaction.

If a bloke wants to dress like Grayson Perry, eat nothing but tofu and avoid horror movies then as with everything else he should be allowed to bloody well get on with it. But stop fucking lecturing to me, telling me how to think about your wonderful self. I will be pleasant to you, as the vast, vast majority of people will be.

(I'll still privately think you're a bit of a cream puff but that's okay because you can be pleasant to me and feel disgusted privately at my obesity )

[Cunt]

my obesity )

I'm triggered.


devogue, I wish I could share my newfound leanness with you.

You could keep resurrecting old threads longer, and drink more wine.

[Seth]

I remember my astonishment when I first heard about triggering on A+.

I thought then, and I still think, that it's the most wimpish, insidious, self-centred, dangerous load of bollocks I've ever heard. I'm actually completely with Seth on this one - it is frighteningly Orwellian. It is now one of the worst tools in the continuing overspill of societal tolerance for a new form of obnoxious, pathetic individualism:

I can't eat that, I'm banana intolerant (I don't like bananas)
My gender is fluid (look at me, look at me)
Describe the racism in this book (I can't bear to be distraught - will no one think of me?)
Get rid of that old statue of a racist (I'm so right, soooooo right)

It's like the fear of being guilty of islamophobia - everyone's scared to speak out because of fear of infringing someone's "rights". Fair play to the likes of Germaine Greer for having the courage to disagree with this nonsense.

I can assure you that not "everybody" is scared to speak out against Islam. Dislike, distaste, revulsion, anger, determination to oppose and even outright hatred of Islam and/or Islamists, even if segregated by their degree of evil behavior or otherwise is NOT a phobia, which is defined as an "irrational fear."

The above feelings are not fear, they are perfectly appropriate and rational moral judgments about an evil that infests our planet. More importantly those feelings listed are not "irrational" in the least because as it happens, Islam is inherently evil, inherently and irredeemably violent and disgustingly sexist and misogynistic according to its own so-called "prophet," it's "holy texts" and it's own pseudo-governmental system of hadith and fatwas.

One is not an "Islamophobe" for desiring to extirpate the scourge of Islam from the face of the earth, one is a just, rational and caring person who is advocating defending every non-Muslim on the planet against that clear and present danger that must, for the survival of all good people, be opposed and destroyed utterly, root and branch, lest it infect the rest of the planet as it has infected the middle east.

[pErvinalia]

I agree a bit with devs "look at me, look at me" thing. I've made the comment before that I reckon there's a pathology going on here. These people (what Coit calls 'the regressive left') have been outsiders and ignored for so long, that when they get to university or on social media they realise they now have a new found level of power they never had, and they act out as a sort of form of revenge against regular society. I think most of them need psychological help, not for any alleged fear of chalk markings or whatever, but for the underlying pathology.

[Seth]

I agree a bit with devs "look at me, look at me" thing. I've made the comment before that I reckon there's a pathology going on here. These people (what Coit calls 'the regressive left') have been outsiders and ignored for so long, that when they get to university or on social media they realise they now have a new found level of power they never had, and they act out as a sort of form of revenge against regular society. I think most of them need psychological help, not for any alleged fear of chalk markings or whatever, but for the underlying pathology.

I agree that it's pathological, but this "outsiders" claim is utter crap. Every one of them is a privileged, pampered infant being duped and propagandized by Marxist Progressive liberal fascists in academia into dependent-class sympathy.

They wouldn't be in college if they were "ignored outsiders."

But you're right that they need treatment. The best treatment is to kick their sorry asses out of university and force them to go to work. About the time they get their first paycheck and see the 40 percent of it that goes to supporting some other dependent class fuckwit their pathology will disappear.

A young Marxist Progressive liberal fascist is merely a Libertarian in training who hasn't paid income tax yet.

[Cunt]

I agree with Mr. Fry. Except the part where he apologized.

Sad to see one of the strongest characters around get 'gentled' by the victims and victims advocates. Why doesn't anyone fight from a position of strength anymore?

When I was a kid, it was a courageous and bold thing to be out as a homosexual. Now it is 'not their choice'. Nothing has changed in the interim, except that now they sound weak and mealy-mouthed wheras before they had earned the title 'Gay' by being...well, gay about it.