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Re: Women on top

Post by Sean Hayden » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:11 am

To prove, however, that woman was not intended to be the equal of man, the argument
most frequently alleged is that she is the weaker vessel, inferior in stature, and has much less physical
strength. This physiological fact, of course, cannot be denied; although the disparity in these respects is
very much increased by neglect or mismanagement. But allowing women generally to have less bodily
power, why should this consign them to mental, moral, or social dependence? Physical force is of s
pecial value only in a savage or barbarous community. It is the avowed intention and tendency of Christianity
to give the ascendancy to man's moral nature; and the promises of God, with whom is all strength and
wisdom, are to the upright, the pure, the good, not to the strong, the valiant, or the crafty.

The more men receive of the lessons of Christianity, the more they learn to trust in God, in the might of
the right and true, the less reliance will they put upon brute force. And as brute force declines in
public estimation, the more will the feminine qualities of the human race rise in general regard and
confidence, until the meek shall be seen to be better than the mighty, and the humble only be
considered worthy of exaltation. Civilization implies the subordination of the physical in man to the
mental and moral; and the progress of the melioration of the condition of our race has been everywhere
marked by the elevation of the female sex.

But some would eagerly ask, should women be allowed to take part in the constructing and administering of our civil institutions?
Allowed, do you say? The very form of the question is an assumption of the right to do them the wrong that has been done them. Allowed! Why, pray tell me, is it
from us their rights have been received? Have we the authority to accord to them just such prerogatives
as we see fit and withhold the rest? No! woman is not the creature, the dependent of man but of God.
We may with no more propriety assume to govern women than they might assume to govern us. And
never will the nations of the earth be well-governed until both sexes, as well as all parties, are fairly
represented and have an influence, a voice, and, if they wish, a hand in the enactment and
administration of the laws.

One would think the sad mismanagement of the affairs of our own country should, in all modesty, lead
us men to doubt our own capacity for the task of governing a nation, or even a state, alone; and to
apprehend that we need other qualities in our public councils, qualities that may be found in the female
portion of our race. If woman be the complement of man, we may surely venture the intimation that all
our social transactions will be incomplete, or otherwise imperfect, unless they have been guided alike by
the wisdom of each sex. The wise, virtuous, gentle mothers of a state or nation (should their joint
influence be allowed) might contribute as much to the good order, the peace, the thrift of the body
politic as they severally do to the well-being of their families, which for the most part, all know is more
than the fathers do.
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Can you believe that was written in the 1800s?
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Re: Women on top

Post by Sean Hayden » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:39 am

--you're itching to talk about the sexism in it, ain't you?

Don't bother, 42 will be along shortly with a parody of the leftist/sjw/progressive crowd's take on it.
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Re: Women on top

Post by Joe » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:43 am

Cunt wrote:Right now I'm looking for a whole field where they dominate, rather than individuals.
Well, as was already mentioned, they own eye rolling, which is believed to be an evolutionary means of asserting dominance over other women.

You seem to be looking for something more in the sporting realm, which is problematic since women have only begun to move into these events, and how they stack up is still changing. Open water ultra endurance swimming appears to be the first place women are beginning to dominate because of their physiology. From the linked article:
There’s something special about ultra-swimming, it seems. In 2014, for example, Knechtle published a paper looking at 30 years of finishing times for the Manhattan Island Marathon Swim, a 28.5-mile loop around the perimeter of Manhattan. On average, the best women were 12 to 14 percent faster than the best men. Another study, published in 2015, looked at 87 years of finishing times for the 20.1-mile Catalina Channel Swim, and found that when “the swimming times of the annual fastest women and the annual fastest men competing between 1927 and 2014 were compared, women were 52.9 minutes faster than men,” Knechtle and his colleagues write.

That’s notable in itself. But it’s not the whole story. Where it gets really interesting is at the amateur level, said Steven Munatones, considered one of the foremost experts on open-water swimming. A few years ago — purely to satisfy his own curiosity — Munatones analyzed the finishing times of men and women who participated in the biggest ultra-distance swims around the world. He did this for three years, keeping track of “12 or 13” races — he can’t remember exactly. He never intended to publish these results anywhere; again, this was for his own curiosity, as a coach and as an open-water swimming fan. Here’s what he found. “If you’re looking at the average times — the average woman is faster than the average man,” said Munatones, who is the founder of the World Open Water Swimming Association. “Which, frankly, I was surprised to see.”
Their edge apparently comes from body fat.
But according to Knechtle, the probable explanation for women’s apparent competitive edge in open-water endurance swimming is one specific physiological feature: body fat, but for a different reason than the theory about fat-burning and distance running. In the 2014 paper on the Manhattan Island Marathon Swim, for example, he and his colleagues note that female open water ultra-swimmers tend to have a body fat percentage of 30.7 to 31.3 percent; compare that to their male counterparts’ 18.8 to 20.2 percent. “Competitive female swimmers have proportionately more fatty tissue at the lower body than male swimmers,” they note. “The higher percentage of body fat may improve both buoyancy and swimming performance in women.”
Should you need an individual example of a notable performer, Lynne Cox (shown below), has twice held the record for the fastest English channel swim, and has some impressive accomplishments.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:47 am

Body fat? Uh oh... now you've done it.. :hehe:
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Post by Joe » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:50 am

pErvinalia wrote:Body fat? Uh oh... now you've done it.. :hehe:
Just tryin' to help. :whistle:
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:54 am

Cunt is probably going to have run an extra 300kms this week after that sort of triggering... :whistle:
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Re: Women on top

Post by Hermit » Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:25 am

pErvinalia wrote:Is English your 11th language? :think: That has absolutely nothing to do with the question. Whether you have female heroes etc doesn't tell us anything about why you want to see evidence of females dominating males in some competitive endeavour.
He has explained why he is challenging us to find a sport where women excel over men here:
...the broad variety of demands of the different sports are far from limited to the physical...it just seems like a better performer in sport, would be likely to be a better performer in many other ways.
As long as you cannot find a single sport in which women as a group outperform men as a group, his argument goes, men are superior to women, or as he put it in the OP:
Everywhere, men dominate with their bigger muscles, bones and cognitive power
I don't know where he wants to go with this, especially because he also said:
If it is true that men dominate regularly in every competitive field, then I still believe people should be treated equally.
He'll have a tough time finding someone on this forum who would sincerely disagree.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:59 am

Hermit wrote:
pErvinalia wrote:Is English your 11th language? :think: That has absolutely nothing to do with the question. Whether you have female heroes etc doesn't tell us anything about why you want to see evidence of females dominating males in some competitive endeavour.
He has explained why he is challenging us to find a sport where women excel over men here:
...the broad variety of demands of the different sports are far from limited to the physical...it just seems like a better performer in sport, would be likely to be a better performer in many other ways.
Yeah, that's as most of us have speculated as the beginnings of his bigotry, but I'd like to hear it definitively from his lips/fingers. Something like "If woman can't dominate men in sports, and therefore in most areas of life, it means.... {whatever Cunt thinks it means}".

But some of Cunts best friends are women, so he's probably definitely not sexist...
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Re: Women on top

Post by Cunt » Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:09 am

It's fun that you think I care about that, with the way you post.

You avoid plenty of questions, and you may insert whatever answer you wish, it still won't change your mind about me, or how this topic makes you feel uncomfortable.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:58 am

Still avoiding the question.. :bored:
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Re: Women on top

Post by rainbow » Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:59 am

Cunt wrote:]

Right now I'm looking for a whole field where they dominate, rather than individuals.
Not asking stupid questions and expecting intelligent answers.

Women are better at that.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:00 am

Fix the quotes! :lay:
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Re: Women on top

Post by rainbow » Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:11 am

pErvinalia wrote:Fix the quotes! :lay:
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:20 am

Samuel May wrote:The wise, virtuous, gentle mothers of a state or nation (should their joint
influence be allowed) might contribute as much to the good order, the peace, the thrift of the body
politic as they severally do to the well-being of their families, which for the most part, all know is more
than the fathers do.
If more women (May in my opinion is not a true woman) were world leaders IMHO there would be a greater chance of peace.
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Re: Women on top

Post by Forty Two » Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:45 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:--you're itching to talk about the sexism in it, ain't you?

Don't bother, 42 will be along shortly with a parody of the leftist/sjw/progressive crowd's take on it.
The leftist/sjw crowd have become impossible to parody. The Poe is strong with them.
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