Problematic Stuff

[Cunt]

Rape Culture is a myth - Change my mind
https://youtu.be/H6dv6G1FWxk
Open discussion with unedited interviews at Texas college. I'm going to check it out.

[Jason]

Rape Culture is a myth - Change my mind
https://youtu.be/H6dv6G1FWxk
Open discussion with unedited interviews at Texas college. I'm going to check it out.

He deSTROYED THEM!!!!!111oneoneone

[Cunt]

No-one presented anything which would change his mind. My mind isn't changed either.

They had a chance, but failed to make a good case for their side. Maybe someone could, but they didn't attend.

[Jason]

Actually I was very entertained at their complete incompetence and ignorance. Not to mention their religious reverence for their so-called 'professors.'

[Cunt]

He didn't destroy anyone there, he just invited information, and no-one offered any good info.

It happens again and again, that lefty fails in the debate.

The Munk Debates (from Canada) had Stephen Fry on lately...he was ON THE RIGHT!!!

He is a giant gay actor, with every left leaning thing you can imagine, but because he was against political correctness, he was on the right.

[Forty Two]

Rape Culture is a myth - Change my mind
https://youtu.be/H6dv6G1FWxk
Open discussion with unedited interviews at Texas college. I'm going to check it out.

Well, it is a myth, here in the West. If you want a rape culture, go to the middle east and Africa. Here in the British commonwealth, continental western Europe, the US/Canada, and Oz/NZ, rape is among the worst crimes one can commit, and the cultural reaction to it is one of harsh punishment, to the point of death, or if not death, then dismemberment of the perpetrator. Men and women alike abhor rapists.

We do, however, dovetail that with western Enlightenment values of due process, logic/reason, and skepticism, which suggests that allegations on whatever subject are not taken as true without corroboration or verification. That's, apparently, what makes us a rape culture, because if you don't believe an accuser first and burden the accused with having to provide exculpatory proof, and if you think that changing stories, internally inconsistent stories, and stories that make little to no rational sense are any indication that a story may not be factually accurate, well, that makes you a rape apologist.

[Cunt]

How would you define the difference between a rape culture, and a non-rape culture?

Another good question, for the gender-confused. Can you define the difference between gender expression and fashion choice?

[Brian Peacock]

Why don't you tell us what you think? Go on, give us 500 words on each topic to start us off.

[Forty Two]

How would you define the difference between a rape culture, and a non-rape culture?

Another good question, for the gender-confused. Can you define the difference between gender expression and fashion choice?

A rape culture is a society or environment whose prevailing social attitudes have the effect of normalizing or trivializing sexual assault and abuse. Our society does not have prevailing social attitudes which make rape "normal" (it's decidedly abnormal) and it certainly does not "trivialize" rape, sexual assault or sexual abuse. I think a culture which is something like this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Saudi_Arabia - is more like a rape culture, because it actually has non-consensual sex being completely permissible, because a husband can fuck his wife anytime he wants, and there is no statutory rape, and there would be no rape if the woman comes into the company of the man in violation of "purdah" (female seclusion rules). And, the idea that rape punishments target both the rapist and rapee, and often punish the rapee harsher than the rapist, it appears pretty consistent with the definition of rape culture.

Gender expression and fashion choice is complicated. It's difficult to pin down any real meaning to these terms. Gender expression is how a person shows their gender to the world through appearance and dress, but, at the same time, there is rejection that appearance or dress indicates gender. I.e., if I see someone wearing a dress and a long, flowing, "traditionally feminine" hair, with make-up, and generally dressing like a traditional woman, then I can't assume it's a woman, because gender is what a person identifies as and if they express traditional female that's just a social construct and a person wearing a dress may not really be "expressing" gender female, they could be expressing male in a dress with makeup, etc. I.e., one guy can wear dresses and makeup and say they are expressing female, but another guy can wear a dress and makeup and say they are expressing male, we aren't supposed to infer a gender from their expression.

[laklak]

No no no. We're a rape culture because we do not automatically believe every woman who says she is a victim. We still allow this silly "due process" nonsense, which we all know was defined by old, white, CIS, straight, rapey slave-owners. Until we start believing women and start castrating anyone accused of sexual assault (including "grinding" or "2nd tit touch") we will be a patriarchal rape-enabling culture.

[Cunt]

Why don't you tell us what you think? Go on, give us 500 words on each topic to start us off.

Rape culture? I don't understand it, or agree with it, so i can't say much about it except that everyone I know is anti-rape.

As to 'gender expression' vs 'fashion choice'. I don't know the difference. That's why I was asking.

Not 'gender', which I understand to be the way someone feels, independent of their actual sex, but 'gender expression', which has become a protected thing under Canadas human rights legislation.

So what is the difference? If no-one knows, or can say, I get it. It doesn't seem any different to me, either.

Maybe it just isn't that important...

[pErvinalia]

How would you define the difference between a rape culture, and a non-rape culture?

Another good question, for the gender-confused. Can you define the difference between gender expression and fashion choice?

A rape culture is a society or environment whose prevailing social attitudes have the effect of normalizing or trivializing sexual assault and abuse. Our society does not have prevailing social attitudes which make rape "normal" (it's decidedly abnormal) and it certainly does not "trivialize" rape, sexual assault or sexual abuse.

Other than "Grab 'em by the pussy"...

[JimC]

[Hermit]

Here in the British commonwealth, continental western Europe, the US/Canada, and Oz/NZ, rape is among the worst crimes one can commit

You don't know what you're talking about. Here in Australia rape is a popular pastime. Why? Because it's so much fun. Surveys have been published showing that nine out of ten participants enjoy a good gang rape.

and the cultural reaction to it is one of harsh punishment

That's bullshit too, at least as far as Australia is concerned. When nine people, one of them a repeat offender, pleaded guilty to gang raping a ten year old girl, District Court Judge Sarah Bradley did not hand a custodial sentence down on a single one of them on the grounds that "the girl had probably agreed". Six of the accused were under 16, so the judge saw fit to not even record a conviction against them. The other three had all of their sentences suspended. Of course some people felt outraged by that, but Greg Barns, a barrister of 20 years said the outrage over the sentences and controversial remarks by the judge was unwarranted.

[Forty Two]

Average sentence for rape here in the states is like 10 years in prison. In Norway, a mass murderer who shot like 77 people, mostly children, got 20 years, and will eventually be allowed out.