He's no longer suspended - that was just for 24 hours. The issue is that he's choosing to leave. A matter of principle, for him.FedUpWithFaith wrote:Then lift the suspension right now. This is silly.
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Start a new thread so you can answer my treeness questions.jamest wrote:He's no longer suspended - that was just for 24 hours. The issue is that he's choosing to leave. A matter of principle, for him.FedUpWithFaith wrote:Then lift the suspension right now. This is silly.
Favorite quote:
lifegazer says "Now, the only way to proceed to claim that brains create experience, is to believe that real brains exist (we certainly cannot study them). And if a scientist does this, he transcends the barriers of both science and metaphysics."
lifegazer says "Now, the only way to proceed to claim that brains create experience, is to believe that real brains exist (we certainly cannot study them). And if a scientist does this, he transcends the barriers of both science and metaphysics."
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Re: Metaphysics as an Error
The suspension is long over.FedUpWithFaith wrote:Then lift the suspension right now. This is silly.
Comte started this thread since then.
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Re: Metaphysics as an Error
Yes, we'll pick up the conversation at some time. Not yet though. Gotta work shortly & just generally busy. Keep your trees in mind till next time - I'll get round to pruning them then.SpeedOfSound wrote:Start a new thread so you can answer my treeness questions.jamest wrote:He's no longer suspended - that was just for 24 hours. The issue is that he's choosing to leave. A matter of principle, for him.FedUpWithFaith wrote:Then lift the suspension right now. This is silly.
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While I support the 24-hr suspension (not because CdSG said anything worse than anyone else; it's the timing thing), I also agree that I should have suggested splitting the derail instead of temporarily locking the thread. I responded the way I did because a) I've only been a mod for a short time, and it simply didn't occur to me to split the thread, b) I received several PMs from participants in the thread within a short time with legitimate complaints about certain other participants, c) I didn't see any other mods online at the time to ask advice from (I didn't see Mai until it was too late).
In retrospect, spitting the posts into a derail thread would have been very tricky, as on-topic comments were mixed in the same posts as derail comments. It was something like 2 or 3 a.m. here at the time, and I simply couldn't have handled it. What can I say, I have a job. If it had occurred to me or Mai (who didn't know the content of the PMs to me) to split the thread instead of temporarily locking it, I could have asked her to do it.
Bottom line, I did my best with what I had at the time. Sorry if it wasn't up to snuff. I learned something valuable from it, but I hope I didn't do too much damage in the process. I offer my apologies to anyone who was unnecessarily troubled by my actions.
In retrospect, spitting the posts into a derail thread would have been very tricky, as on-topic comments were mixed in the same posts as derail comments. It was something like 2 or 3 a.m. here at the time, and I simply couldn't have handled it. What can I say, I have a job. If it had occurred to me or Mai (who didn't know the content of the PMs to me) to split the thread instead of temporarily locking it, I could have asked her to do it.
Bottom line, I did my best with what I had at the time. Sorry if it wasn't up to snuff. I learned something valuable from it, but I hope I didn't do too much damage in the process. I offer my apologies to anyone who was unnecessarily troubled by my actions.
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Well it's quite moot about the bear pit . The general consensus seems to be that it's a bad idea, that could lead to more drama out of the pit.
Splitting the derail would, possibly be a better resolution.
Splitting the derail would, possibly be a better resolution.
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I think anyone who talks about philosophy should be banned for life. 
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Wow, I truly admire this post FBM. You will become an excellent mod I'm sure.FBM wrote:While I support the 24-hr suspension (not because CdSG said anything worse than anyone else; it's the timing thing), I also agree that I should have suggested splitting the derail instead of temporarily locking the thread. I responded the way I did because a) I've only been a mod for a short time, and it simply didn't occur to me to split the thread, b) I received several PMs from participants in the thread within a short time with legitimate complaints about certain other participants, c) I didn't see any other mods online at the time to ask advice from (I didn't see Mai until it was too late).
In retrospect, spitting the posts into a derail thread would have been very tricky, as on-topic comments were mixed in the same posts as derail comments. It was something like 2 or 3 a.m. here at the time, and I simply couldn't have handled it. What can I say, I have a job. If it had occurred to me or Mai (who didn't know the content of the PMs to me) to split the thread instead of temporarily locking it, I could have asked her to do it.
Bottom line, I did my best with what I had at the time. Sorry if it wasn't up to snuff. I learned something valuable from it, but I hope I didn't do too much damage in the process. I offer my apologies to anyone who was unnecessarily troubled by my actions.
So, live and learn. I'd suggest when there is a derail of this type and there is a mix of the irrelevant and the relevant, that you leave the mixed posts be and simply move and/or copy the derail to another thread. If necessary, warn those who did the derail not to continue the derail discussion in the original thread and confine their ongoing discussions of the derail matter to the new thread. If they refuse then I'd kick their ass.
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That's very... philosophical of you, Dev...devogue wrote:I think anyone who talks about philosophy should be banned for life.
BANNED!
A book is a version of the world. If you do not like it, ignore it; or offer your own version in return.
Salman Rushdie
You talk to God, you're religious. God talks to you, you're psychotic.
House MD
Who needs a meaning anyway, I'd settle anyday for a very fine view.
Sandy Denny
This is the wrong forum for bluffing
Paco
Yes, yes. But first I need to show you this venomous fish!
Calilasseia
I think we should do whatever Pawiz wants.
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Bella squats momentarily then waddles on still peeing, like a horse
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Salman Rushdie
You talk to God, you're religious. God talks to you, you're psychotic.
House MD
Who needs a meaning anyway, I'd settle anyday for a very fine view.
Sandy Denny
This is the wrong forum for bluffing
Paco
Yes, yes. But first I need to show you this venomous fish!
Calilasseia
I think we should do whatever Pawiz wants.
Twoflower
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Re: Metaphysics as an Error
I totally understand. I'll be all content when I get my two chew toys back.FedUpWithFaith wrote:Wow, I truly admire this post FBM. You will become an excellent mod I'm sure.FBM wrote:While I support the 24-hr suspension (not because CdSG said anything worse than anyone else; it's the timing thing), I also agree that I should have suggested splitting the derail instead of temporarily locking the thread. I responded the way I did because a) I've only been a mod for a short time, and it simply didn't occur to me to split the thread, b) I received several PMs from participants in the thread within a short time with legitimate complaints about certain other participants, c) I didn't see any other mods online at the time to ask advice from (I didn't see Mai until it was too late).
In retrospect, spitting the posts into a derail thread would have been very tricky, as on-topic comments were mixed in the same posts as derail comments. It was something like 2 or 3 a.m. here at the time, and I simply couldn't have handled it. What can I say, I have a job. If it had occurred to me or Mai (who didn't know the content of the PMs to me) to split the thread instead of temporarily locking it, I could have asked her to do it.
Bottom line, I did my best with what I had at the time. Sorry if it wasn't up to snuff. I learned something valuable from it, but I hope I didn't do too much damage in the process. I offer my apologies to anyone who was unnecessarily troubled by my actions.
So, live and learn. I'd suggest when there is a derail of this type and there is a mix of the irrelevant and the relevant, that you leave the mixed posts be and simply move and/or copy the derail to another thread. If necessary, warn those who did the derail not to continue the derail discussion in the original thread and confine their ongoing discussions of the derail matter to the new thread. If they refuse then I'd kick their ass.
Favorite quote:
lifegazer says "Now, the only way to proceed to claim that brains create experience, is to believe that real brains exist (we certainly cannot study them). And if a scientist does this, he transcends the barriers of both science and metaphysics."
lifegazer says "Now, the only way to proceed to claim that brains create experience, is to believe that real brains exist (we certainly cannot study them). And if a scientist does this, he transcends the barriers of both science and metaphysics."
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Re: Metaphysics as an Error
There's no suspension in effect. Note who started this thread.FedUpWithFaith wrote: Then lift the suspension right now. This is silly.
The exile is self-imposed, and CdSG has trudged off, back to the ice and high mountains. I hope that by teasing him a little about it, here, I can induce him to return. Self-imposed exile never suited me. It always feels like there's just a little too much Elba room.
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He most definitely is.FedUpWithFaith wrote:Wow, I truly admire this post FBM. You will become an excellent mod I'm sure.
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Man, that took some balls. Nice one FBM!FBM wrote:While I support the 24-hr suspension (not because CdSG said anything worse than anyone else; it's the timing thing), I also agree that I should have suggested splitting the derail instead of temporarily locking the thread. I responded the way I did because a) I've only been a mod for a short time, and it simply didn't occur to me to split the thread, b) I received several PMs from participants in the thread within a short time with legitimate complaints about certain other participants, c) I didn't see any other mods online at the time to ask advice from (I didn't see Mai until it was too late).
In retrospect, spitting the posts into a derail thread would have been very tricky, as on-topic comments were mixed in the same posts as derail comments. It was something like 2 or 3 a.m. here at the time, and I simply couldn't have handled it. What can I say, I have a job. If it had occurred to me or Mai (who didn't know the content of the PMs to me) to split the thread instead of temporarily locking it, I could have asked her to do it.
Bottom line, I did my best with what I had at the time. Sorry if it wasn't up to snuff. I learned something valuable from it, but I hope I didn't do too much damage in the process. I offer my apologies to anyone who was unnecessarily troubled by my actions.
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Still aCharlou wrote:He most definitely is.FedUpWithFaith wrote:Wow, I truly admire this post FBM. You will become an excellent mod I'm sure.
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