piscator wrote:Forty Two wrote:piscator wrote:Forty Two wrote:As of January, 2016, the number of Classified emails found were 1600, secret were 11, and confidential were 231. In August of 2015, she declared - "I have said repeatedly that I did not send nor receive classified material," If her defense is that the material wasn't "officially designated" by someone other than herself (who is the head of the Department of State and tasked to know what is and is not classified or secret), then she's full of shit.
I think it's more likely you are. Even assuming your number
It's not "my" number - that's the Inspector General's numbers -- part of the Obama Administration.
No, that's YOUR number.
Inspector General.
Go through your apologetics all you want. You're wrong on both the facts and the law, and you just have your head so far up Clinton's ass, you can see daylight.
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Dude -- emails are not classified by someone other than the sender before or after being sent. They contain classified information if the information is classified information, whether the email is "labeled" classified or not. That's not a surprising or weird law - that's that all government employees with clearance are trained on, heavily. The information WAS classified at the time.
Goddamn, you don't even know what "Classified" is?
Hint: It's not an intrinsic quality of a group of words. It's something someone does to a document for a particular reason.
Not true at all. You're wrong. If a person takes notes in a meeting regarding upcoming negotiations with a foreign government, for example, the notes are classified whether "marked" that way or not. Nobody has to do anything about it. If Hillary writes an email about confidential or classified or secret information, it doesn't need to be "marked" classified to be classified.
Have you even read anything about this issue? I've posted links above -- the law is summarized and cited. This is not even controversial. The "not marked confidential" nonsesnse is only taken seriously by fanboys who lick Hillary's ass.
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Until you understand that, you're going to stay confused on this issue.
Unfortunately for you piscator, you are dead wrong. An August 2015 review by Reuters of a set of released emails found "at least 30 email threads from 2009, representing scores of individual emails," that include what the State Department identifies as "foreign government information," defined by the U.S. government as "any information, written or spoken, provided in confidence to U.S. officials by their foreign counterparts." Although unmarked,t these emails "were classified from the start." J. William Leonard, a former director of the NARA Information Security Oversight Office, said that such information is "born classified" and that "If a foreign minister just told the secretary of state something in confidence, by U.S. rules that is classified at the moment it's in U.S. channels and U.S. possession."[1] According to Reuters, the standard U.S. government nondisclosure agreement "warns people authorized to handle classified information that it may not be marked that way and that it may come in oral form."
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e ... BW20150821 (born classified).
Clinton rationalizes that because the emails were not stamped classified, she could not have been expected to know they were classified. As I’ve been emphasizing since March, she is trying to exploit the public’s unfamiliarity with the distinction between classified documents and classified information – the former are obviously classified because they are marked as such; the latter, because of its nature, is well known to national security officials to be classified – regardless of whether it is marked as such or even written down at all.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/42 ... c-mccarthy
With that as background, the order makes clear that there is one category of information that is automatically deemed classified: information from foreign governments. Section 1.1(d) of the executive order decrees: “The unauthorized disclosure of foreign government information is presumed to cause damage to the national security.” The reason for this is plain: It is not just the often sensitive nature of diplomatic communications; it is the fact that, in order to protect our national security, the United States must rely on intelligence from foreign governments; if our government does not keep that information strictly confidential, the foreign governments will be unwilling to share it – endangering American lives. As Secretary of State, Clinton not only knew this elementary rule; it was her duty to ensure that the rule was followed throughout her department. As has been clear from the beginning, and is now patent after the latest disclosure of a subset of 6,000 of the emails Clinton deigned to preserve, at least 125 of which reportedly contain classified information, the emails Clinton sent, received and stored via her private server system were rife with information from foreign governments. This information was born classified. It makes no difference that these emails were not stamped “top secret”; all national security officials with security clearances know that foreign government information is deemed classified and must be handled as such. Period.
Read more at:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/42 ... c-mccarthy
Keep waiving those pom poms, piscator.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
