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Re: GOP Primaries/Caucuses Discussions, Jokes and Prediction

Post by laklak » Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:23 pm

See? There you go, forcing your religion on me! Stop microaggressing me, you patriarchal privileged white racist old cis person!
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by Forty Two » Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:23 pm

Trump has more votes at this stage in the primaries than Romney had in 2012 and McCain had in 2008 -- http://www.weeklystandard.com/trump-has ... le/2001230
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Post by Forty Two » Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:31 pm

If Trump wins big on Super Tuesday and takes Florida, he's got it. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/n ... 016-219685 and http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/rep ... ald-trump/

Anyone have any good headlines from Europe about how crazy or stupid ya'll think we are for even entertaining Trump as a candidate?
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Post by Svartalf » Wed Feb 24, 2016 5:42 pm

I don't have any such thing, but nobody I know believes the trumpster to be a good thing for the US... OTOH, we're used to GOP becoming ever crazier since reagan and the shrubs and the tea party
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Post by Forty Two » Wed Feb 24, 2016 6:51 pm

“I followed the law," Trump said in an interview with Mika Brzezinski aired Wednesday on MSNBC's "Morning Joe," in discussing the hoops she had to jump through in order to become a citizen of the United States. "I never thought to stay here without papers. I had a visa, I traveled every few months back to the country to Slovenia to stamp the visa. I came back, I applied for the green card, I applied for the citizenship later on after many years of green card. So I went by system, I went by the law. And you should do that, you should not just say let me stay here and whatever happens, happens.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop- ... z4173AMvGl
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Post by Tero » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:11 pm

Lak is right again.
But Europeans are as stupid as volcanic rocks! Especially Iceland.
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Post by Animavore » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:13 pm

Forty Two wrote:If Trump wins big on Super Tuesday and takes Florida, he's got it. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/n ... 016-219685 and http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/rep ... ald-trump/

Anyone have any good headlines from Europe about how crazy or stupid ya'll think we are for even entertaining Trump as a candidate?
We don't need headlines. We can see the train wreck for ourselves.

Thankfully, as I've said before, he's not getting near the Whitehouse. So most of us aren't even worried.
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Post by Forty Two » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:28 pm

Animavore wrote:
Forty Two wrote:If Trump wins big on Super Tuesday and takes Florida, he's got it. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/n ... 016-219685 and http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/rep ... ald-trump/

Anyone have any good headlines from Europe about how crazy or stupid ya'll think we are for even entertaining Trump as a candidate?
We don't need headlines. We can see the train wreck for ourselves.

Thankfully, as I've said before, he's not getting near the Whitehouse. So most of us aren't even worried.
I thought the same thing, but it's now looking as if he may well get fairly near. he is blowing the doors off the GOP field. He didn't just "win" in Nevada, he beat both Cruz and Rubio COMBINED. I.e. if all of Rubio's votes went to Cruz, Trump still won. And, that is in a state where Rubio had many real advantages, with the entire GOP establishment against Trump, the media against Trump, etc.

The next step is Super Tuesday. Trump could pretty much seal the nomination with big wins there. He may not, but the fact that he is even in a position where he may well sew it up is rather amazing.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Post by Animavore » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:34 pm

Forty Two wrote:
Animavore wrote:
Forty Two wrote:If Trump wins big on Super Tuesday and takes Florida, he's got it. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/n ... 016-219685 and http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/rep ... ald-trump/

Anyone have any good headlines from Europe about how crazy or stupid ya'll think we are for even entertaining Trump as a candidate?
We don't need headlines. We can see the train wreck for ourselves.

Thankfully, as I've said before, he's not getting near the Whitehouse. So most of us aren't even worried.
I thought the same thing, but it's now looking as if he may well get fairly near. he is blowing the doors off the GOP field. He didn't just "win" in Nevada, he beat both Cruz and Rubio COMBINED. I.e. if all of Rubio's votes went to Cruz, Trump still won. And, that is in a state where Rubio had many real advantages, with the entire GOP establishment against Trump, the media against Trump, etc.

The next step is Super Tuesday. Trump could pretty much seal the nomination with big wins there. He may not, but the fact that he is even in a position where he may well sew it up is rather amazing.
Yes he might win the GOP, but if he does it's Game Over for them. The ones who don't support him will either vote independent or vote Democrat out of spite.

Unlike some Europeans I don't think Americans are crazy or stupid based on a sub-set. I think the majority will turn on Trump.
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Post by Forty Two » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:44 pm

Don't be so sure. People hate Hillary. She's the establishment -- she's Goldman Sachs. Bernie is old, and a socialist. The media is doing its best to present Bernie as some leader of some sort of revolution or anti-establishment -- but, the voter turnout among Democrats is way, way down. Way less than 2008, and even much less than 2012.

From what I've seen of the latest polls relative to a Trump v Clinton election, all polls are within the margin of error, with Clinton currently having the edge, but barely.
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Post by Svartalf » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:48 pm

One can hope hilly can beat the trumpster, but that's one battle I don't want to see, better see Rubio beat the sanders flat like a crepe.
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Post by Animavore » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:49 pm

I am sure. Trump will mobilise people who don't usually vote to get to the polls at a rate equivalent to the Irish Same Sex Marriage Referendum. He won't win. He can't win.
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Post by Svartalf » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:53 pm

Never underestimate how stupid a voter can be... Fourty two and Rachel are worried, and I guess they have reasons to be
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Post by Forty Two » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:58 pm

Svartalf wrote:One can hope hilly can beat the trumpster, but that's one battle I don't want to see, better see Rubio beat the sanders flat like a crepe.
The thing is, as bad as Trump is, I would much rather have him as President than Rubio. And, Hillary is basically a Republican.
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Post by Forty Two » Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:00 pm

Animavore wrote:I am sure. Trump will mobilise people who don't usually vote to get to the polls at a rate equivalent to the Irish Same Sex Marriage Referendum. He won't win. He can't win.
The thing is -- he is tearing it up in places like New Jersey and Massachusetts -- places with a lot of blue collar folks who love politically incorrect foul-mouths. Those are typically blue states. And, he's not only winning with some blues, but he is beating guys like Cruz among evangelicals. The religious in red states will vote for him DESPITE his foul mouth and support for Planned Parenthood and opposition to W. Bush. The blue collar folks in blue states will vote for him BECAUSE of his foul mouth, support for Planned Parenthood and opposition to W. Bush.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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