response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 attacks

[Animavore]

There are two topics I consider too stupid to discuss;

1. Creationism
2. 9/11 conspiracies.

You wanna discuss Obama's citizenship?

It is not good to talk about He whose name can not be uttered.

[Trolldor]

There are two topics I consider too stupid to discuss;

1. Creationism
2. 9/11 conspiracies.

You wanna discuss Obama's citizenship?

lolwut?

[Daisy]

There are two topics I consider too stupid to discuss;

1. Creationism
2. 9/11 conspiracies.

You wanna discuss Obama's citizenship?

lolwut?

That's not too stupid to discuss?

That's a hot topic at the BaptistBoard.

[klr]

There are two topics I consider too stupid to discuss;

1. Creationism
2. 9/11 conspiracies.

You wanna discuss Obama's citizenship?

lolwut?

That's not too stupid to discuss?

That's a hot topic at the BaptistBoard.

But so is: http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=64694

"Any Calvinist willing to walk through Romans 11 with me?"

[Coito ergo sum]

Wonder what all of you will do, IF in your lifetime, you learn that what "we truthers" as you like to call us, have been claiming is proven to be true.

Change my mind, and then possibly join in the call for a revolution.

Can you even consider that possibility?

Yes, I can and do.

or is that beyond your concept of keeping an open mind?

My mind is open. However, an open mind does not mean that one agrees with any position asserted.

Has the MSM, and others who have an interest to blame a fanatic group, so persuaded you it is hopeless to even consider, to read and research for yourselves?

I have not been persuaded by the MSM, which is very superficial in its coverage of almost all events, and most MSM journalists are not very bright, IMHO.

For those of you who did not follow the discussion on RDF, let it be known that until mid-2003, I too believed the version of what had been told on MSM.

What version? Can you summarize the version that you believed?

It was only after my dad and his friends (most of them former European armed forces officers: air force, army) showed me how it could not be possible to bring down two towers with airplane fuel,

Well, whether they were in the armed forces doesn't make them structural engineers, and I have seen it explained exactly how the towers could have been brought down by being rammed into by 2 speeding jetliners, including but not limited to their nearly full tanks of fuel.

But, I am willing to be persuaded. Can you explain to me how it could not be possible to bring down two towers by impacts from two separate 767 airplanes, loaded with people and fuel?

let alone fly in that manner into the Pentagon etc,

Can you explain to me how it is not possible that the plane hit the Pentagon on 9/11/01?

etc The complete stand-down (outrageous unless previously planned) .

What's your evidence for a "complete stand down?" Stand down of what?

The crash site in PA, they told me, was obvious that it was of a shot down plane.

It's not obvious that it was shot down. But, please, explain to me how you think it is obvious.

However, this allegation, to me, always rings hollow, because Bush and Cheney both admit that an order was actually given to shoot it down. They defend that decision, and merely state that the plane crashed before it was shot down. Most everyone understands the necessity of such a decision. There does not appear to be a motive for a cover up here.

I thought, silly old men, and went on to try and prove them wrong, but the more we exchanged information and the more i interviewed others in similar positions, with experience in engineering, the more i realised what had really happened.

So, please - explain how the buildings could not have fallen by virtue of the airplane impacts.

[Rum]

[Thinking Aloud]

let alone fly in that manner into the Pentagon etc,

Can you explain to me how it is not possible that the plane hit the Pentagon on 9/11/01?

This is my favourite one. You can actually see the plane's tail fin in one of the Pentagon security videos of the impact.

[Cunt]

Conny, I asked you earlier...

So what evidence would cause you to change any of these assumptions? What would it take for you to admit that you were wrong on some of these points?

To which you answered...

i'm not the mood right now. Maybe you can think up a few things to reply to me for a change...hm?

Maybe we should forget about you doing any reasonable dialogue until you are 'in the mood' to consider evidence properly.

(I just wanted to remind everyone what Conny said about his (her?) own willingness to discuss this non-issue)

[Coito ergo sum]

let alone fly in that manner into the Pentagon etc,

Can you explain to me how it is not possible that the plane hit the Pentagon on 9/11/01?

This is my favourite one. You can actually see the plane's tail fin in one of the Pentagon security videos of the impact.

The wife of the solicitor general of the united states was on that plane too. She died in it. So, she must have been killed off and her husband was in on the conspiracy, right? But, before they killed her off, they got her to record a cell phone call wherein she describes the hijacking as if she was actually on the plane, and she reports the plane's heading from the airplane.....

[Coito ergo sum]

There are two topics I consider too stupid to discuss;

1. Creationism
2. 9/11 conspiracies.

You wanna discuss Obama's citizenship?

I'd love to. I'm not sure what the argument is that he's not a citizen. I've tried to understand the "Birther's" theory, but I still don't see what the big deal is.

But, then again, people were making allegations that McCain shouldn't be allowed to be Prez because he was born in the Panama Canal Zone.

I love arguing with Moon Hoaxers too...that's some fucked up shit right there...

[SamanthaJane]

[Trolldor]

Ah, I forgot all about this nonsense of him not being Merkun.

[Animavore]

Cunny never did come back with that evidence after I graciously provided evidence of structural failure from tow independent sources

[FedUpWithFaith]

George Carlin:

Carlin died of a heart attack?!

Not so fast.

I'll bet the CIA had him murdered.

If anybody could crack the 911 conspiracy it was Carlin. So he was silenced.

All true patriotic Americans and citizens of the world interested in truth should demand an investigation!!!!

[FedUpWithFaith]

Oops - double post