Should Lecturers on Adult Campuses Be Allowed Affairs With Students?

[Hermit]

Those who bring in the power dynamic argument forget life is not fair except in Communist countries where people pay a heavy price for the level playing field.

So called communist countries were and are bereft of level playing fields.

Why shouldn't pretty or handsome folks get a higher grade than the squat and ugly?

Who says they shouldn't? I for one am all for them to get a higher grade, but not on account of having sex with the person who marks their papers.

I'd have thought it would improve the gene pool in the long run?

How would having sex with the person who marks their papers improve the gene pool?

[aufbahrung]

Much smaller population after the human die off and intellectual crunch by the loss of lineages that depended on caesareans to give birth to the nephilim who are like smart mules without modern technology which the collapse will deny them. You got to realise the scale of catastrophe for humanity on its way before seeing where my cards lay on the table here.

[pErvinalia]

The inside of your brain must be a confusing place..

[aufbahrung]

Not standard. Built it myself. Most go for a off the shelf. Fair enough for them. Where would we be without some conformity afterall. But for me I prefer to see what the brain can do, and parts I can modify. After all no second life to take LSD in...not that I would. Different methods. Meditation and that sort of thing for me.

[Hermit]

Much smaller population after the human die off and intellectual crunch by the loss of lineages that depended on caesareans to give birth to the nephilim who are like smart mules without modern technology which the collapse will deny them. You got to realise the scale of catastrophe for humanity on its way before seeing where my cards lay on the table here.

Let me ask again: How would having sex with the person who marks their papers improve the gene pool?

[Brian Peacock]

Much smaller population after the human die off and intellectual crunch by the loss of lineages that depended on caesareans to give birth to the nephilim who are like smart mules without modern technology which the collapse will deny them. You got to realise the scale of catastrophe for humanity on its way before seeing where my cards lay on the table here.

Early Christians believed that Christ's appearance signalled the end of days. c.700 years later the learned believed that the world of man and nature was entering the end times with the closing of the 6th millennium after the creation. In medieval England, on Christmas Day 1085CE, around teatime, William I commissioned the Doomsday Book, as a survey and account of all the shires held in his possession on behalf of Christ. This account would, he believed, assure his entry into heaven when the world ended - which was obvs just around the corner. In 1284 Pope Innocent III predicted that the end of the world and the final judgement would come 666 years after the rise of Islam, which unsurprisingly worked out to be 1284. In 1658 notorious smallpox spreader Christopher Columbus said he'd worked out from Bible that the world began in 5343BCE and would end exactly 7000 years later. If we don't count an extra year zero that meant the end would come in, well I never, 1658. Discoverer of the fundamental mathematical constant e, Jacob Bernoulli used early astronomy and the rigours of maths to confirm that a comet would destroy the earth on 5 April 1719. Unfortunately he died 14 years before his prediction could be verified by observation. The Seventh Day Adventist Church was formed specifically to preach the good news that the final, world-ending deathmatch-slamdown between Satan and Jesus was scheduled for 1874. They're still going strong. Around the same time the apparent rediscovery of the prophesies of Old Mother Shipton headlined with the news that the world would end in fiery torment in 1881. Even though the Mother Shipton prophesies were debunked as fictional fakes at the time some people sold up and took holy orders ahead of the great apocalypse. Then there was the end-times clamour that accompanied the appearance of Hally's Comet in 1910, the prediction the world would simply disappear with a puff in 1935 from evangelical preacher Wilbur Glenn Voliva, and who can forget George Van Tassel's prediction of global annihilation, as channelled to him by that alien prankster Ashtar, in 1962. Pat Robertson, who blamed the 9/11 attacks on "the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays, and the lesbians", cashed-in bigtime during 1976 with predictions that the world would end in 1982. And I'm sure even you have first-hand memories of Harold Camping, who predicted the Rapture would come on 6 September 1994? When it didn't arrive he claimed to have got the maths wrong, but that it was definitely going to happen on 28 September, then on 2 October, then on etc etc. I believe his prediction is still being updated biannually. Then there's Steve Bannon and his Fourth Wheel theory that's big with the alt-right types, and which says we're living at the absolute tailend of civilisation. The difference with Bannon's take is that because we're living on the precipitous edge of complete societal collapse it's the duty of every white and right-thinking man to lend his shoulder to the wheel and push it over the edge. And these are just the ones I found in half-an-hour of basic Google-fu.

Isn't it nice to see this living tradition continuing on these very pages eh, but what relevance do your end-times predictions have for our discussions on whether it's OK for middle-aged male academic staff to come on the tits of their 19 year old female students?

[aufbahrung]

More convinced you all are its the end of days the more you'll chill out with your lizzabeethan morals. My plan been unravelled. Helps that WW3 is on the radar again. Never said anything would happen regarding total extinction just yet. But aren't lecturers are so poorly paid that without striking for deregulation and removal of morality policing there is really nothing to keep them on the job? It won't bring on the apocalypse to normalise education with retail and shelf filling work in regards to carnal matters that happen, as a consequence of natural human interaction.

[Brian Peacock]

More convinced you all are its the end of days the more you'll chill out with your lizzabeethan morals.

If you'd made a moral argument, rather than just expressing a desire, we'd be having a lot more interesting conversation now.

My plan been unravelled. Helps that WW3 is on the radar again. Never said anything would happen regarding total extinction just yet.

That's right. All you have to say is that it's just around the corner. Don't want to be caught being too specific like Camping. That's because your predictions of impending doom (from the Old English dom: a law, statute, decree; administration of justice, judgment; justice, equity, righteousness) are pure affectation, that is: based on a feeling; an emotional response.

But aren't lecturers are so poorly paid that without striking for deregulation and removal of morality policing there is really nothing to keep them on the job?

I get what you're saying here: why would anyone be a lecturer when there's so much regulation and paperwork to do? That's actually a real problem, along with the kind of 'freelance' zero-hours contracting that they're lumped with. That's actually why they've been taking strike action all year.

But you're also saying something else: why would anyone be a lecturer when there's so many redundant moral strictures stopping middle-aged men from engaging in sexual activity with their teen and post-teen female students? However, if you thought about this from the perspective of the young women, rather than simply identifying with the middle-aged men, then I'm pretty sure the answer would be pretty obvious to you.

It won't bring on the apocalypse to normalise education with retail and shelf filling work in regards to carnal matters that happen, as a consequence of natural human interaction.

Hmm. That's a rather bleak, transactional view of intimate human relations. But then again, I guess most of us don't really think about the nature of sexual intimacy, who gains or cedes control, who has the power or status to compel and who lacks the power or status to refuse, or the feedback between intimate human relations and those broader social relations expressed within and throughout societies predominantly ordered by the perspectives and the will of men. Just as long as we come, eh, right lads?

[aufbahrung]

Much smaller population with much lower social velocity I think the ordinary patriarchal nature of society will return. A few decades of cultural marxism can't wipe out natural human relations.

[Brian Peacock]

Clean your room.

[Hermit]

Much smaller population with much lower social velocity I think the ordinary patriarchal nature of society will return. A few decades of cultural marxism can't wipe out natural human relations.

Um, Not having sex with the person who marks their papers will do that?

You need to go into detail to make that convincing.

[aufbahrung]

Everything will change after the coming nuclear war and population collapse. Never said only one thing is gonna change. Also I think education is over-valued. There is biological intelligence. Those with it will ferret out info for themselves. In the interent era. Those without forever live in fear of the light, getting that 965 million dollar fine for being wrong. Normalising human relations in the education profession on the other hand, so that it is the same as shelf stacking, could be the start for bringing paygrades down and saving the state monies.

[Hermit]

Everything will change after the coming nuclear war and population collapse. Never said only one thing is gonna change. Also I think education is over-valued. There is biological intelligence. Those with it will ferret out info for themselves. In the interent era. Those without forever live in fear of the light, getting that 965 million dollar fine for being wrong. Normalising human relations in the education profession on the other hand, so that it is the same as shelf stacking, could be the start for bringing paygrades down and saving the state monies.

Opinion noted. Now please reply to this question: How would having sex with the person who marks their papers improve the gene pool? Is being pretty or handsome evidence of what you call biological intelligence? If so, what exactly is biological intelligence? How is it beneficial to the human population? Will it lessen the chance of any of your catastrophic scenarios becoming reality?

[aufbahrung]

Intermarriage with random folks is always better for the genepool than marriage in a civilization dependant 'dynasty'.