Everything Is Doubt?

[Rum]

I've been there exactly once. No uncertainty - or doubt.

...but were you really?
I was there, and did not see you.

Explain that!!!!!!

I was in the Croydon near London. I expect you were in the Croydon near to Umbolongabonga.

[Brian Peacock]

Croydon: City of dreams.

[Scot Dutchy]

Croydon: City of dreams.

Cant have great expectations then.

[Svartalf]

well, if you've read tyhe Hawkmoon series of books by Michael Moorcock, Croydon is indeed the city of dreams (or nightmares)

[Scot Dutchy]

I have been there and it really beggars belief.

[JimC]

well, if you've read tyhe Hawkmoon series of books by Michael Moorcock, Croydon is indeed the city of dreams (or nightmares)

Moorcock, eh...

That's a blast from the past, I was really into him in the 70s; Elric and all the rest...

[Brian Peacock]

Jerry Cornelius for me. Golly, those tales were exciting, not to mention a bit saucy, at least for the nerdy 12 year old I was at the time (and still am on the inside ).

[Svartalf]

well, if you've read tyhe Hawkmoon series of books by Michael Moorcock, Croydon is indeed the city of dreams (or nightmares)

Moorcock, eh...

That's a blast from the past, I was really into him in the 70s; Elric and all the rest...

well, I was really into him, Elric, Hawkmoon, Erekosë, Corum... until I did my Master's thesis on him and discovered he was a horrible hack... it was not that he had a rich universe with lots of correspondences, but simply that he always wrote the same shit dressed over with different names... when his writing made sense at all in the first place (I do think he was UI of multiple drugs when he wrote The English Assassin and the Condition of Muzak)

[Svartalf]

Jerry Cornelius for me. Golly, those tales were exciting, not to mention a bit saucy, at least for the nerdy 12 year old I was at the time (and still am on the inside ).

tales? the two books I just mentioned made no sense at all... as for the Final Programme it was merely an umpteenth retelling of choice parts of the Elric saga... yeah, miss Brunner had charm in the part of Stormbringer, but that was all...

[JimC]

Yes, I agree that he could be repetitive, and that his later books started to resemble a bad LSD trip, but I still remember his work with pleasure...

[Svartalf]

man, I spent two years of my life reading and dissecting all the Moorcock I could, repetitive is only the beginning, he's also got that messiah complex (obsession with the JC initials, Breakfast in the Ruins, a hero whose incarnation often has to die as part of the passage from one era to the next... man, I'm regretting I did not find a way to include that shit in my thesis...on the other hand, I'd have had to rethink the whole orientation of the work.

[Brian Peacock]

Jerry Cornelius for me. Golly, those tales were exciting, not to mention a bit saucy, at least for the nerdy 12 year old I was at the time (and still am on the inside ).

tales? the two books I just mentioned made no sense at all... as for the Final Programme it was merely an umpteenth retelling of choice parts of the Elric saga... yeah, miss Brunner had charm in the part of Stormbringer, but that was all...

Hey, I was only 12. I didn't know good shit from bad shit - I just knew they painted strange pictures in my mind, and I thought, "Oooo, I like that." OK, he wasn't a Shakespeare, and although his appeal burned bright it also burned out pretty fast, but still, as a pre-teen male those stories were definitely thrilling. If you want total 60/70 mindfuck though you have to look further up the literary staircase. Barefoot In The Head anyone?

[Svartalf]

don't know that one... funnily enough, I recently rerad the Swords of corum trilogy, and slated the second Corum trilogy, but I got stopped part way because of my depressive state and its repercussions on my ability to concentrate on any sustained activity... well, I hope to have it done by the end of the year, and after that it willl be the Hawkmoon books, and after that maybe I'll go for Elric, but I have plenty more stuff on my working table, so I don't know if I'll have the courage.

[JimC]

Jerry Cornelius for me. Golly, those tales were exciting, not to mention a bit saucy, at least for the nerdy 12 year old I was at the time (and still am on the inside ).

tales? the two books I just mentioned made no sense at all... as for the Final Programme it was merely an umpteenth retelling of choice parts of the Elric saga... yeah, miss Brunner had charm in the part of Stormbringer, but that was all...

Hey, I was only 12. I didn't know good shit from bad shit - I just knew they painted strange pictures in my mind, and I thought, "Oooo, I like that." OK, he wasn't a Shakespeare, and although his appeal burned bright it also burned out pretty fast, but still, as a pre-teen male those stories were definitely thrilling. If you want total 60/70 mindfuck though you have to look further up the literary staircase. Barefoot In The Head anyone?

Brian Aldiss was a very accomplished, but very strange author with a very large output. I've read quite a few, and have a dozen or so in my collection. I think I remember trying to read Barefoot In The Head, but I gave up!

[Tero]

Well, everything is sort of real. The universe is an illusion, a sort of holodeck, created by something to make my life fulfilling. I don't know yet who created it, as it turns out that even the evil Lizard Lords are part of the holodeck. so it all comes out to the fact that only I am real. You are arguing useless stuff. I can erase it all.