Poverty Impedes Cognitive Function

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Re: Poverty Impedes Cognitive Function

Post by Rum » Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:59 pm

Well nobody is doing that. It is observably true that children from poorer backgrounds do worse in terms of school qualifications than those from better off backgrounds. Of course kids from better off backgrounds tend not to do too well on the rough and tumble of 'streets' one could argue.

The OP seems to be suggesting that poorer kids end up 'cognitively' less well performing.

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Post by Forty Two » Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:21 pm

Cognitively less well performing is a fancy way of saying "dumber."
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Re: Poverty Impedes Cognitive Function

Post by Tyrannical » Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:56 pm

Impeded cognitive function causes poverty. Shocking, I know.
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Re: Poverty Impedes Cognitive Function

Post by Svartalf » Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:58 pm

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Re: Poverty Impedes Cognitive Function

Post by Rum » Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:12 pm

Forty Two wrote:Cognitively less well performing is a fancy way of saying "dumber."
You are deliberately misinterpreting the findings, but if you can't do subtle then OK. So what?

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Re: Poverty Impedes Cognitive Function

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:18 am

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JimC wrote:In essence, if you are poor, then so much of your time and effort has to go into just surviving - you are living on the edge...
Not in civilized countries, of course. Maybe in Merka, but in the first world, they have adequate safety nets and social welfare programs, free healthcare and such, that this can't possibly be an issue in places like Oz, NZ, and western Europe.
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Re: Poverty Impedes Cognitive Function

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:19 am

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Rum wrote:Like I said, I spent much of my working life in the education sector.
I'm not big on calling poor people stupid.
Poverty impedes cognitive function.
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Re: Poverty Impedes Cognitive Function

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:20 am

Tyrannical wrote:Impeded cognitive function causes poverty. Shocking, I know.
Dunno bout that, but it certainly seems to cause racism.
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Re: Poverty Impedes Cognitive Function

Post by JimC » Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:19 am

Rum wrote:
JimC wrote:In essence, if you are poor, then so much of your time and effort has to go into just surviving - you are living on the edge...

I don't think it is quite this causally linked. Poor parents tend not to encourage their children in a direction that will lift them out of poverty. Low expectations lead to low achievement and according to the research directly to lower cognitive function.

When little Johnny's parents are more interested in watching the X Factor final than in Johnny's homework, Johnny's education suffers.
I think my suggestion would be increasingly true as you go towards extreme poverty. Relative poverty in western countries is somewhat different, but it remains true that the wealthy can give more resources (books etc.) to their offspring...
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:51 am

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Post by JimC » Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:08 am

...and an appreciation of high quality gin...
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Re: Poverty Impedes Cognitive Function

Post by cronus » Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:56 am

Smart sorts naturally gravitate towards a wad and make love on top of it like nesting swans. The poor stupid bastards argue over their inadequate few coins. You can see how over several stable generations of a currency ie the great moderation when fiscal stability was the norm this would give the illusion the smarts and the smart money were a thing. Only takes one fiscal collapse to remind you, folks need to mix their genes based on immune functions not brains....or love conquers all. The crumple what kicked the hornets nest....rich have got their channels in the bedrooms of the poor, and all that jizz came from nowhere. :read:
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Re: Poverty Impedes Cognitive Function

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Apr 27, 2016 5:30 am

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Re: Poverty Impedes Cognitive Function

Post by piscator » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:44 am

Rum wrote:
Forty Two wrote:Cognitively less well performing is a fancy way of saying "dumber."
You are deliberately misinterpreting the findings, but if you can't do subtle then OK. So what?


He's going to bat for all the working class kids who grew up without a book in the house.

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Re: Poverty Impedes Cognitive Function

Post by Forty Two » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:31 pm

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Forty Two wrote:
JimC wrote:In essence, if you are poor, then so much of your time and effort has to go into just surviving - you are living on the edge...
Not in civilized countries, of course. Maybe in Merka, but in the first world, they have adequate safety nets and social welfare programs, free healthcare and such, that this can't possibly be an issue in places like Oz, NZ, and western Europe.
The butthurt is strong in this one.
LOL - who knew that in civilized countries, there was a significant problem with "so much of your time and effort ha[ving] to go into just surviving - you are living on the edge." I mean, what kind of a country makes its citizens live like that?
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