Atheist's genocide.

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Re: Atheist's genocide.

Post by pErvinalia » Mon May 19, 2014 3:40 am

WTF?? Atheists don't kill people because they are not atheists. Shit thesis, Dave.
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Re: Atheist's genocide.

Post by pErvinalia » Mon May 19, 2014 3:41 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:
JimC wrote:You missed a rather important point.

Religious nutters kill because of their religion; their particular sky fairy tells them to...

Some genocidal 20th century leaders were atheist, but they didn't kill for that reason, or to spread atheism; there is no evidence that their atheism was a causative factor in their murderous rampage.
Fair point but does that help the dead.
No, but it destroys your argument.
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Re: Atheist's genocide.

Post by rainbow » Mon May 19, 2014 7:43 am

Genocidal acts are motivated by Ideology.
The ideology does not have to have a religious basis.
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Re: Atheist's genocide.

Post by cronus » Mon May 19, 2014 8:09 am

rainbow wrote:Genocidal acts are motivated by Ideology.
The ideology does not have to have a religious basis.
Genocide motivated by biology. Chimp show other chimp tribe what happens, that's what happens. No immigration issues in Germany these days like other parts of Europe. In fact they have a boom in bad times. Gotta keep sociopathic nations happy. :tup:
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Re: Atheist's genocide.

Post by JimC » Mon May 19, 2014 9:00 am

rainbow wrote:Genocidal acts are motivated by Ideology.
The ideology does not have to have a religious basis.
Or indeed an anti-religious basis...
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Re: Atheist's genocide.

Post by MrJonno » Thu May 29, 2014 6:33 pm

Being an atheist doesn't make you a good person any more than being a christian makes you a bad one, it does make you at least in part a more rational one but you can be irrationally nice to people as well as rationally nasty to them

Through I do think most Christians are decent people despite their religion not because of it (they ignore the really nasty bits)
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Re: Atheist's genocide.

Post by Tero » Thu May 29, 2014 7:15 pm

Guns don't kill people! Atheists kill people.
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Re: Atheist's genocide.

Post by MrJonno » Thu May 29, 2014 8:01 pm

Tero wrote:Guns don't kill people! Atheists kill people.
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No they don't as theists have immortal souls
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Re: Atheist's genocide.

Post by DaveDodo007 » Fri May 30, 2014 11:46 pm

Still when god is out of the equation government wise the body bags mount up. Religion at least seems a break on ideology excesses.
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Re: Atheist's genocide.

Post by JimC » Sat May 31, 2014 12:39 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:Still when god is out of the equation government wise the body bags mount up. Religion at least seems a break on ideology excesses.
Perhaps it is, on occasions. However, often it is an accelerator...
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Re: Atheist's genocide.

Post by DaveDodo007 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:49 am

JimC wrote:
DaveDodo007 wrote:Still when god is out of the equation government wise the body bags mount up. Religion at least seems a break on ideology excesses.
Perhaps it is, on occasions. However, often it is an accelerator...
This is true in localize situations though if you want to kill people with industrial scale methods that doesn't include racism (the Nazis) you need atheism
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Re: Atheist's genocide.

Post by pErvinalia » Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:58 am

Bullshit you do. Atheism has nothing to do with a propensity to kill.
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Re: Atheist's genocide.

Post by DaveDodo007 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:15 am

rEvolutionist wrote:Bullshit you do. Atheism has nothing to do with a propensity to kill.
Except that there are no consequences when they choose to do so and they choose to do so on an industrial scale quite often and then the graves are needed to be dug in the millions.
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Re: Atheist's genocide.

Post by pErvinalia » Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:18 am

Logic isn't your strong suit, is it?
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Re: Atheist's genocide.

Post by DaveDodo007 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:22 am

rEvolutionist wrote:Logic isn't your strong suit, is it?
Logic is philosophic masturbation I only deal in facts.
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