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Re: Even more problematic stuff

Post by JimC » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:21 pm

Why am I not surprised that Galaxian sees one more clear cut, but high profile criminal act as a conspiracy? :roll:
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Post by Seabass » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:42 pm

MAGAbomber at a Trumpemberg Rally. Of all the crazy cults this country has produced, this one has got to be the worst one of all. A crazy cult of hate and ignorance has managed take control of all three branches of government.

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Post by Hermit » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:38 pm

Seabass wrote:
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According to L'emmy it's a political meme that's popular with the far-right, including Infowars kooks. It's used to depict liberals as mindless scum. Forty Two—who identifies as definitely not far-right, alt-right, or right-wing—uses the meme a lot.
To my utter lack of surprise our (currently only) Alaskan member has referred to NPCs on a number of occasions too.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:40 pm

It's projection, surely?
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:50 pm

Hermit wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:38 pm
Seabass wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:17 pm
According to L'emmy it's a political meme that's popular with the far-right, including Infowars kooks. It's used to depict liberals as mindless scum. Forty Two—who identifies as definitely not far-right, alt-right, or right-wing—uses the meme a lot.
To my utter lack of surprise our (currently only) Alaskan member has referred to NPCs on a number of occasions too.
He's Canadian, dude.
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Post by Hermit » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:41 am

Sean Hayden wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:40 pm
It's projection, surely?
Surely not! The people who have become Trump supporters, have become so by being shown the error of their ways. They had their ideas and thought challenged. Their change was provoked by intelligent debate. They are not NPCs. They are intelligent, rationally thinking people, for crying out loud.
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Post by Hermit » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:45 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:50 pm
Hermit wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:38 pm
Seabass wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:17 pm
According to L'emmy it's a political meme that's popular with the far-right, including Infowars kooks. It's used to depict liberals as mindless scum. Forty Two—who identifies as definitely not far-right, alt-right, or right-wing—uses the meme a lot.
To my utter lack of surprise our (currently only) Alaskan member has referred to NPCs on a number of occasions too.
He's Canadian, dude.
His way of thinking make him an honorary US citizen of the Trump-supporting variety, dude, but just to please you, I'd edit my post to read "our (currently only) Canadian member from Yellowknife" if I still could.
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Post by Seabass » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:56 am

It is kind of funny that people who staunchly support the sitting president as well as the political party that controls all three branches of government fancy themselves freethinking mavericks. It would seem to me that support for a conservative party whose objective is to preserve the status quo would make you exactly the opposite of a maverick.
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Re: Even more problematic stuff

Post by Galaxian » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:12 am

JimC wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:21 pm
Why am I not surprised that Galaxian sees one more clear cut, but high profile criminal act as a conspiracy? :roll:
Because you faithfully assume that your handlers & agencies are divine angels & pure-intent institutions?
Or maybe you look at the world through rose colored glasses. See no evil, hear no evil, & speak no evil?
Or perhaps you're actually one of the handlers and must post disinfo to deceive & distract the lemmings?
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Post by JimC » Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:23 am

I'm prepared to accept that there are, on occasions, wheels within wheels, and disinformation at times from various players.

But it is rank lunacy to see conspiracy theories behind every major event that plays out in this sorry world...
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:36 am

The conspiracy theory is an irrational but comforting reaction to fears about an inability to control and influence others, events, and the world around us. It is an attempt to impose order onto that which resists order, to render the complex simple, and to place the individual at the centre of important events. In ascribing a motivating agency to circumstance and happenstance the conspiracy theory is the basis of all religious ideology - describing both how the world is and how it should be.

It's also easier to replace facts with fictions and rail against those myths than to actually take responsibility for one's own procrastinating impotence and wilful ignorance.
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Post by Rum » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:52 am

Yes, but you would say that, wouldn't you? :what:


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Re: Even more problematic stuff

Post by Forty Two » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:46 am

Hermit wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:21 pm
Forty Two wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:41 am
A leftist pro-abortion protester roundhouse kicked a woman in the face because she was anti-abortion.
Turning to the MAGAbomber now. He wasn't a right wing protester, I suppose. Just some random nutcase, right?
Yes, just as I do not ascribe the nutcases on the left to "everyone who considers himself left wing," I don't ascribe a right wing nutcase to everyone who considers himself right wing.

From the information in the media, it does seem he was quite a nutcase. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/ ... 14565.html A long time loner with mental problems, living in a fantasy world. First registered as a Republican 11 days before the 2016 election, so he wouldn't even have been allowed to cast a ballot for Trump in 2016, because Florida residents must register at least 29 days before the election. He has a long history of weird crimes, and he has a long history of threatening people.

The guy sent 11 "bombs" (weird, bomb-looking things) - bot not a single one of them exploded. I am not even sure from the reports if they were capable of exploding, absent being set on fire.

He is a nutcase.
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Re: Even more problematic stuff

Post by Forty Two » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:49 am

Seabass wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:56 am
It is kind of funny that people who staunchly support the sitting president as well as the political party that controls all three branches of government fancy themselves freethinking mavericks. It would seem to me that support for a conservative party whose objective is to preserve the status quo would make you exactly the opposite of a maverick.
A large faction of the GOP were "never Trumpers" who vowed to oppose him, with major Republican figures declaring they would vote Democrat in 2016. Trump is not the Republican Party - or he wasn't in 2016. He has won some converts, but let's see how long they would stick with him if the economy slumped.
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Re: Even more problematic stuff

Post by Forty Two » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:54 am

Hermit wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:38 pm
Seabass wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:17 pm
According to L'emmy it's a political meme that's popular with the far-right, including Infowars kooks. It's used to depict liberals as mindless scum. Forty Two—who identifies as definitely not far-right, alt-right, or right-wing—uses the meme a lot.
To my utter lack of surprise our (currently only) Alaskan member has referred to NPCs on a number of occasions too.
It's a funny meme, and came out a few weeks ago. If "a few times" constitutes "uses the meme a lot," then I'm guilty. What's really funny is the reaction of people who don't claim to be SJWs or extreme lefties who mindlessly parrot what CNN and the Guardian and the like tells them to think are so obviously bothered by it.

The meme is a natural outgrowth of the anti-Trump bleating that results in everything the guy does, no matter how benign, being blown up into a major news issue, and how anything he does, even if his opposition agrees with it, becomes bad. Trump Derangement Syndrome becomes "Orange Man Bad."
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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