Jamest is right!

[Xamonas Chegwé]

From the wiki page you quoted, Seth (and which you conveniently overlooked).

"Most inclusively, atheism is the absence of belief that any deities exist."

I know you WANT atheists to BELIEVE that there are no gods but that is simply not the case with many of us. Absence of belief ≠ Belief of absence.

[Seth]

From the wiki page you quoted, Seth (and which you conveniently overlooked).

"Most inclusively, atheism is the absence of belief that any deities exist."

I know you WANT atheists to BELIEVE that there are no gods but that is simply not the case with many of us. Absence of belief ≠ Belief of absence.

Your actions deny your assertions, as do the actions of nearly everyone else here.

If you truly had an "absence of belief," your sole and only answer to the question "Does God exist?" would be "Huh? What's 'god'?" It's not. Therefore I say you, and just about everyone else, actually has a belief of absence. I've seen nothing in your argumentation to suggest anything different. Don't take it personally, it's true of every self-proclaimed atheist I've ever encountered. Nor is it morally objectionable to hold that belief. I merely state that you do hold it, and that holding such a belief as a matter of importance constitutes a religious belief, which I maintain has resulted in the formation of the religious cult of Atheism.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

From the wiki page you quoted, Seth (and which you conveniently overlooked).

"Most inclusively, atheism is the absence of belief that any deities exist."

I know you WANT atheists to BELIEVE that there are no gods but that is simply not the case with many of us. Absence of belief ≠ Belief of absence.

Your actions deny your assertions, as do the actions of nearly everyone else here.

If you truly had an "absence of belief," your sole and only answer to the question "Does God exist?" would be "Huh? What's 'god'?" It's not. Therefore I say you, and just about everyone else, actually has a belief of absence. I've seen nothing in your argumentation to suggest anything different. Don't take it personally, it's true of every self-proclaimed atheist I've ever encountered. Nor is it morally objectionable to hold that belief. I merely state that you do hold it, and that holding such a belief as a matter of importance constitutes a religious belief, which I maintain has resulted in the formation of the religious cult of Atheism.

Ah, yes. This mysterious, all-pervading cult that only you can see.

We've been down this road before and you always take that same strange turning into the bushes at some point (I guess you have a weak bladder), so I shan't bother repeating myself. Go back to any conversation we've had on the subject in the past and try and spot the subtle differences between my outlook and that that you pretend to see.

[jamest]

What's happened to this thread? A total derail. It's a good job that I'm not a mod.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

What's happened to this thread? A total derail. It's a good job that I'm not a mod.

You really don't know Rationalia at all, do you. I can assure you that this is far sure of the level of derail that we are capable of!

Now, where were we? Cheese, I think. What are you views on Brie?

[jamest]

Brie is a definite proof for God. It would be unable to be invented, otherwise.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

Brie is a definite proof for God. It would be unable to be invented, otherwise.

I think you are confusing god with Penicillium camemberti. Easy mistake.

[jamest]

Brie is a definite proof for God. It would be unable to be invented, otherwise.

I think you are confusing god with Penicillium camemberti. Easy mistake.

Never heard of that cunt. Must have been a mod.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

Brie is a definite proof for God. It would be unable to be invented, otherwise.

I think you are confusing god with Penicillium camemberti. Easy mistake.

Never heard of that cunt. Must have been a mod.

A mould, actually.

[jamest]

Brie is a definite proof for God. It would be unable to be invented, otherwise.

I think you are confusing god with Penicillium camemberti. Easy mistake.

Never heard of that cunt. Must have been a mod.

A mould, actually.

Parrots and moulds. Burn them all. Only then will my philosophy take off.

[Seth]

Ah, yes. This mysterious, all-pervading cult that only you can see.

Boy, are you oblivious to 85 percent of the planet's population. Ask any person of faith their opinion about the cult of Atheism and you'll very likely get the same answer. I did a bit of off-the-cuff research a while back wherein I asked a fairly large number of randomly selected people if they thought atheism is a religion, and the vast majority said yes.

The more vociferously a person declares they are an atheist, the more certain it is that they are an Atheist and a card-carrying member of the Cult of Atheism. You see, people who really have no beliefs in or about God don't go about trumpeting their atheism like it's a virtue that makes them somehow superior to everybody else, which is my personal experience with Atheists. They just shrug their shoulders and go on about their lives. Only Atheists take the time and trouble to quote-mine, cherry-pick or mendaciously mischaracterize theistic claims and statements in order to make their attacks on people of faith sound more erudite and credible. Problem is, they quote-mine, cherry-pick and mendaciously mischaracterize and thereby trumpet both their ignorance and intolerance, not to mention their bigotry and hatred towards all things theistic.

Most of the theists I know, when asked their opinion about Atheists, merely shake their heads and mutter about what poor, pathetic sods they are that they spend their lives attacking other people's faith rather than looking after their own. That's why as a Tolerist™ I often come to their defense, because they are busy living their lives and trying to be good people rather than attacking that which they do not understand.

We've been down this road before and you always take that same strange turning into the bushes at some point (I guess you have a weak bladder), so I shan't bother repeating myself. Go back to any conversation we've had on the subject in the past and try and spot the subtle differences between my outlook and that that you pretend to see.

That's why I try to include the word "almost" when referring to Atheists. Of course there are degrees of Atheist delusion and some members are somewhat more rational than others, some of whom border on psychotic hatred of theists, but I'm speaking in generalities, much as many people here speak in generalities about theists...and even non-theists who happen to enjoy arguing from the theist side of the debate...when they lump everyone together and castigate them universally.

Kind of bothersome to be generalized and lumped in with others unjustifiably, isn't it? What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander as well.

[Brian Peacock]

The 'cult of atheism'.

What defines that cult besides disbelieving what various theists and their pals have to say about mythical entities ruling the universe?

[jamest]

Atheists are cunts. They want to pretend that there is no evidence for God whilst maintaining that their criteria for 'evidence' is not at all biased against the idea that a God could exist. In other words, they're all metaphysical bigots. No better than any religious nut I've ever encountered.

As I've argued elsewhere, the concept of 'atheist' is best reserved for robots and organisms dumb enough not to even understand what the concept of God must entail. No intelligent being can claim to be an atheist. At best, they can only claim to be an anti-theist (notwithstanding the attitude of agnosticism).

In the forum from whence I am currently banned, I invented the concept of the 'truth mill'. A metaphor for the biased minds of almost all of us, whereby arguments are processed through the accepted knowledge, biases and attitudes, of any given consciousness prior to receiving judgement.

FFS, when an atheist cannot see why his/her [atheistic] opinion is not a consequence of their accepted knowledge, biases and attitudes, then they should be hung... drawn and quartered. It's the most dick-headed of attitudes I've ever encountered, since [at least] I've never heard a religious person argue that there is no evidence for materialism.

... They missed the boat there, though, since there's none at all.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

Atheists are cunts. They want to pretend that there is no evidence for God whilst maintaining that their criteria for 'evidence' is not at all biased against the idea that a God could exist. In other words, they're all metaphysical bigots. No better than any religious nut I've ever encountered.

As I've argued elsewhere, the concept of 'atheist' is best reserved for robots and organisms dumb enough not to even understand what the concept of God must entail. No intelligent being can claim to be an atheist. At best, they can only claim to be an anti-theist (notwithstanding the attitude of agnosticism).

In the forum from whence I am currently banned, I invented the concept of the 'truth mill'. A metaphor for the biased minds of almost all of us, whereby arguments are processed through the accepted knowledge, biases and attitudes, of any given consciousness prior to receiving judgement.

FFS, when an atheist cannot see why his/her [atheistic] opinion is not a consequence of their accepted knowledge, biases and attitudes, then they should be hung... drawn and quartered. It's the most dick-headed of attitudes I've ever encountered, since [at least] I've never heard a religious person argue that there is no evidence for materialism.

... They missed the boat there, though, since there's none at all.

That has got to be the biggest pile of shit I've ever seen emerge from a single mouth. Now...

[jamest]

Atheists are cunts. They want to pretend that there is no evidence for God whilst maintaining that their criteria for 'evidence' is not at all biased against the idea that a God could exist. In other words, they're all metaphysical bigots. No better than any religious nut I've ever encountered.

As I've argued elsewhere, the concept of 'atheist' is best reserved for robots and organisms dumb enough not to even understand what the concept of God must entail. No intelligent being can claim to be an atheist. At best, they can only claim to be an anti-theist (notwithstanding the attitude of agnosticism).

In the forum from whence I am currently banned, I invented the concept of the 'truth mill'. A metaphor for the biased minds of almost all of us, whereby arguments are processed through the accepted knowledge, biases and attitudes, of any given consciousness prior to receiving judgement.

FFS, when an atheist cannot see why his/her [atheistic] opinion is not a consequence of their accepted knowledge, biases and attitudes, then they should be hung... drawn and quartered. It's the most dick-headed of attitudes I've ever encountered, since [at least] I've never heard a religious person argue that there is no evidence for materialism.

... They missed the boat there, though, since there's none at all.

That has got to be the biggest pile of shit I've ever seen emerge from a single mouth. Now...

When you've finished laughing, address the fucking details of my post. Otherwise, you'll just come across as something akin to your avatar. I get that all of the time at ratskep. It's so fuckin' boring. Multitudes of half-wits laughing at stuff they're too afraid to even contemplate, let alone refute via reason. It's a symptom of tribalism. Understandable, but nevertheless fucking annoying amidst an intelligent debate.

Next please.