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Re: GOP Primaries/Caucuses Discussions, Jokes and Prediction

Post by Forty Two » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:10 pm

The flags flown by anti-Trump protesters....

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Yeah! Fuck the flag! Mexican and Soviet flags are aces in their book, though. But, don't you dare question their patriotism. That would be wrong. Fuck Trump, though, and we'll throw eggs at Trump supporters, set fires and roll some cop cars. That's civil discourse.
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Rats Jump Sinking Ship

Post by piscator » Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:15 pm

Longtime Republican operative discusses the transition from the GOP to the Trump Party:


By Rick Wilson | 12:53 pm, June 4, 2016

Dear Republicans:

Imagine it’s the Fall of this year and you’re a U.S. House or Senate candidate in a swing district or state. Your Democratic opponent is running a low-risk campaign, having pivoted to the slightly-center-left with aplomb. Regardless of their actual beliefs, they’ve got their masks bolted on tight, staying relentlessly on message as technocratic middle-of-the-lane moderates. Barack Obama’s approval numbers keep creeping higher and higher as a kind of “at least he’s not crazy or obviously corrupt” vibe sets in with the public. It makes your “Obamacare, Benghazi, tranny bathrooms” message cluster feel less promising than it did last year when you were planning this run, doesn’t it?

Your pollsters and strategists are hunting for a message and a tone where you can capture the anger and unrest of the Trump voters without becoming Trump-like, because no matter who you are, you’re not Donald Trump. You don’t have the built-in pad of celebrity and reality-television brand image. You don’t have the weird media dynamic where the spectacle of Trump’s shitshow du jour seems to erase yesterday’s insanity with a new hot mess. To your credit, you’re also not utterly insane and suffering from political Tourette’s syndrome. I hate to tell you this, but it’s not working.

When you endorsed him, you bought all the problems Trump has with the voters and none of the assets. That’s why you’re awake at night, staring at the ceiling wondering what the madman will tweet next. You’ve had a tough summer, with endless questions from the press in your not-too-conservative state. Every time he opens his mouth, you’re flooded with questions. You wake up every day trying to stay on your message, but each morning your guts get watery when the Google alert with “your name + Donald Trump” pops on your iPhone. It’s why you can’t go on your Twitter or Facebook or do town hall meetings; because the whole election is about Trump, not you.

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I get it. You were terrified of his online horde of low-information whackjobs, neo-Nazi trolls, red-hat jackasses and their endless, febrile demands that you worship at the foot of Agent Orange. Hell, you’re a politician. You want to be loved. He was beating all the people you liked and respected, one after another. The media kept making him the spotlight, the hot focus of attention and you wanted some of that mojo, didn’t you? Bad call.

You see it in your polling, every day. Trump’s poison brand has splashed over on you, like the reek of some political sewage you can’t wash off. Your data model shows you need to capture at least 30% of the Hispanic vote, but with Trump polling with Hispanics in the low teens and nearing single digits in some places, you can’t seem to break through. Married, professional women are voting for Hillary in droves, repelled by Donald Trump’s racism, misogyny, and also by the increasingly hideous behavior of his supporters. They’re suddenly not so fond of you, either.

You own his politics. You own his policies, even the ones that only last as long as the next contradiction. You own the racial animus that started out as a bug, became a feature and is now the defining characteristic of his campaign. You own every crazy, vile chunk of word vomit that spews from his mouth. You own his racist bleatings about Mexicans and “his” African Americans. You own his digital Hitler Youth alt-reich fanboys with their white-power fantasies and roaring anti-Semitism.

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Oh, you believed he was expanding the electorate? Bringing in millions of new voters? They’re not new; they’re just general election GOP voters who came out for him in the primary. Not you. Him. You perhaps overlooked that he’s also shedding millions of voters from the GOP’s coalition. If you’re in a swing state or district, tell me how you win back the Republican women and professionals who are fleeing Trump in droves? Tell me how you win in Florida or Nevada or Colorado as Hispanic support approached single digits?

He’s not going to change. He’s not going to stop being a shallow blowhard and non-stop-Malaprop. There is no better Trump. He’s not going to become more Presidential or more mindful. Trump doesn’t give a damn about your election. You’re not part of a unified Republican ticket; you’re collateral damage in Trump Rampage Raw WWE 2016. Every day, Donald Trump hands the Democrats another sword with which to cut off your political heads. Every day, Trump adds to their catalog of opposition research and endlessly catchy video bits. He’s all yours, and there are few paths to escape the blast radius.


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Re: GOP Primaries/Caucuses Discussions, Jokes and Prediction

Post by Forty Two » Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:31 pm

"Hillary’s isn’t much better," -- that's a key point. So, Trump is so horrible -- terrible - awful.

Hillary is not much better.

Sounds like if you have two horrible choices, one being (personality-wise) not much better than the other, the issue might come down to policy and the issues one considers most important.
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:34 pm

Yeah, if I had that choice to make, I'd be looking out for credible write ins.
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Post by piscator » Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:49 pm

Forty Two wrote:"Hillary’s isn’t much better," -- that's a key point. So, Trump is so horrible -- terrible - awful.

Hillary is not much better.

Sounds like if you have two horrible choices, one being (personality-wise) not much better than the other, the issue might come down to policy and the issues one considers most important.



A lot of people who hate HRC for the wrong reasons are starting to hate Donald Trump for all the right reasons.

Trump, he is who he is. He won't let that Mexican American judge thing go, after Ryan, Gingrich, and McConnell publicly admonished him for it. When in American history has that ever happened to the presumed nominee? But he won't shut up. It's not his nature.

But he's losing control of his message. Up through the primary, he was selling his inane ideas. Lately, he seems to be spending a lot of time sniveling about how he's being railroaded by the press and Mexicans. He's ducking even basic policy questions because he comes off like a lightweight bullshitter. Now he's gone full retard by insanely claiming bigoted white men can't be judged by men of color, and then topped it off by making thinly veiled threats about how he's going to get even with his various enemies once he's king of America. He's already tired and it's going to be a long hot summer. Trump Party kingpins are shitting themselves because they are going to lose control of the Senate and a big chunk of the House thanks to Big Mouth.

This Presidential election is already over. It's now about coattails and making government function again.

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Re: GOP Primaries/Caucuses Discussions, Jokes and Prediction

Post by Animavore » Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:55 pm

Predictably, Trump is falling apart. Still laughing at people who thought this might actually be a thing.

FFS.
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Trump mislabeled training image in D-Day tweet

Post by piscator » Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:11 pm

Looks like The Donald's free ride in the press has come to a pathetic loser failure end...It's gas, grass, or ass now:

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump's remembrance of D-Day on Twitter included an image that wasn't of the Allied forces' Normandy landing itself, but a training exercise a year earlier.

Trump tweeted: "Remembering the fallen heroes on #DDay - June 6, 1944." Along with that comment was an image of uniformed military forces landing on a beach, displaying the words "D-DAY" and "June 6, 1944."

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The Getty photo Trump used isn't from D-Day, according to Getty. It's from a training exercise that took place more than a year earlier, in January 1943, in preparations for the Normandy landing.
The illustration with that photo and the words "D-DAY" displayed appears to have originated on the website of Fox59 in Indianapolis, which included a caption indicating the photo was from a training exercise.
Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks did not immediately respond for a request for comment on why Trump used the image.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/06/politics/ ... index.html


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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:35 am

Forty Two wrote:The flags flown by anti-Trump protesters....

{snip butthurt about flags}

Yeah! Fuck the flag! Mexican and Soviet flags are aces in their book, though. But, don't you dare question their patriotism. That would be wrong. Fuck Trump, though, and we'll throw eggs at Trump supporters, set fires and roll some cop cars. That's civil discourse.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:39 am

piscator wrote:Looks like The Donald's free ride in the press has come to a pathetic loser failure end...It's gas, grass, or ass now:

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump's remembrance of D-Day on Twitter included an image that wasn't of the Allied forces' Normandy landing itself, but a training exercise a year earlier.

Trump tweeted: "Remembering the fallen heroes on #DDay - June 6, 1944." Along with that comment was an image of uniformed military forces landing on a beach, displaying the words "D-DAY" and "June 6, 1944."

Image

The Getty photo Trump used isn't from D-Day, according to Getty. It's from a training exercise that took place more than a year earlier, in January 1943, in preparations for the Normandy landing.
The illustration with that photo and the words "D-DAY" displayed appears to have originated on the website of Fox59 in Indianapolis, which included a caption indicating the photo was from a training exercise.
Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks did not immediately respond for a request for comment on why Trump used the image.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/06/politics/ ... index.html


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Yeah, no one likes dead heroes. The Don prefers his heroes alive..
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Post by piscator » Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:00 am

He just sort of half-assed it. But he did go through the trouble to deliberately misrepresent the photo, so there's that.

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Re: GOP Primaries/Caucuses Discussions, Jokes and Prediction

Post by Tyrannical » Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:21 pm

Ah yes, the judge on the trump university case. Both the judge and lawfirm bringing the case are active members of the Mexican KKK, La Raza, which means The Race. It's a well known Hispanic supremist group. For the race everything, outside of the race nothin; that's their mitto.
Once trump is elected I expect mass arrests and more than a few executions for these foreign traitors.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:27 pm

Credible evidence for this whackjobbery?
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Post by Tyrannical » Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:30 pm

eRv wrote:Credible evidence for this whackjobbery?
The group name and slogan in english seems pretty convincing. The lawfirm and judge are both members of a local la raza group.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:38 pm

eRv wrote:Credible evidence for this whackjobbery?
:funny: I know you know better than that.

Anyway, this whackjobbery, as you correctly call it, is nothing but crap which was recently evacuated from the colonic system known as Wing Nut Daily. In turn it's been gobbled up eagerly and regurgitated by gullible clowns. The right wing site RedState, to their credit, has refused to swallow that particular lump of excrement.

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Post by Tyrannical » Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:02 am

It's more than just WND reporting on it. Pro illegal alien la raza affiliated law firm bringing the case, pro illegal la raza affiliated judge hearing the case.
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