Check out your local library?Lozzer wrote:
No, I really want to read it, except the Mister Dawkins set a guide-price of twenty-fucking-quid on it. Wayyy to encourage people to be interested in reason and science there!
Books that have shaped you
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Nurse, where the fuck's my cardigan?
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JimC wrote:Check out your local library?Lozzer wrote:
No, I really want to read it, except the Mister Dawkins set a guide-price of twenty-fucking-quid on it. Wayyy to encourage people to be interested in reason and science there!
They wouldn't have it.
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Re: Books that have shaped you
They will if you order it. You can get pretty much any book from a library if you put in an order. They will pull it in from another branch.Lozzer wrote:JimC wrote:Check out your local library?Lozzer wrote:
No, I really want to read it, except the Mister Dawkins set a guide-price of twenty-fucking-quid on it. Wayyy to encourage people to be interested in reason and science there!
They wouldn't have it.
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Re: Books that have shaped you
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:They will if you order it. You can get pretty much any book from a library if you put in an order. They will pull it in from another branch.Lozzer wrote:JimC wrote:Check out your local library?Lozzer wrote:
No, I really want to read it, except the Mister Dawkins set a guide-price of twenty-fucking-quid on it. Wayyy to encourage people to be interested in reason and science there!
They wouldn't have it.
I could get a Bible easier.
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I think that language has a lot to do with interfering in our relationship to direct experience. A simple thing like metaphor will allows you to go to a place and say 'this is like that'. Well, this isn't like that. This is like this.
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Well my Dad's university year book shaped me some...Mom used to spank us with it. It actually hurt less than a regular spanking, but it sure was a lot scarier.
Other than that though...the collected works of Hunter S. Thompson, Darwin's books, Ansel Adams zone system books (I learned a lot about writing how-to books and articles from those, as well as a lot about photography) all shaped me a lot.
Other than that though...the collected works of Hunter S. Thompson, Darwin's books, Ansel Adams zone system books (I learned a lot about writing how-to books and articles from those, as well as a lot about photography) all shaped me a lot.
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I was an atheist before Dawkins' God Delusion, but after reading it, it helped form many of my arguments. It also made me less vulnerable to many of the theist arguments that tend to drag laypeople like myself in.
The Bible is another book that helped shape my disbelief.
Nietzsche's Beyond Good & Evil and Thus Spoke Zarathustra are 2 others that were a major influence. I can't say I fully agree with or understand all of his philosophy, but much of it was a big factor in shaping my current self.
The Bible is another book that helped shape my disbelief.
Nietzsche's Beyond Good & Evil and Thus Spoke Zarathustra are 2 others that were a major influence. I can't say I fully agree with or understand all of his philosophy, but much of it was a big factor in shaping my current self.
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The most significant contribution in that one was how he helped me understand something that was confusing me. It's on page 212 if you have a copy handy.Mac_Guffin wrote:I was an atheist before Dawkins' God Delusion, but after reading it, it helped form many of my arguments.
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Discussion of the Design and Intentional Stances?Gawdzilla wrote:The most significant contribution in that one was how he helped me understand something that was confusing me. It's on page 212 if you have a copy handy.Mac_Guffin wrote:I was an atheist before Dawkins' God Delusion, but after reading it, it helped form many of my arguments.
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No, I usually just suck on the government tit... go to the library, that is. In fact, most of the books I actually own are old paperbacks that the library's giving away.Gawdzilla wrote:The most significant contribution in that one was how he helped me understand something that was confusing me. It's on page 212 if you have a copy handy.Mac_Guffin wrote:I was an atheist before Dawkins' God Delusion, but after reading it, it helped form many of my arguments.
Too bad, my image of Dawkins as a gentleman was skewed. It won't keep me from further learning from him, but my reading probably won't be as enjoyable as it once was... it's like a big elephant in the room.
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The man's recent actions and personality are not to be confused with the man's scientific ideas. The first are based on emotion and reaction, the latter on meticulous, scientific study and rational evaluation. Too many seem to be forgetting that at this time.Mac_Guffin wrote:No, I usually just suck on the government tit... go to the library, that is. In fact, most of the books I actually own are old paperbacks that the library's giving away.Gawdzilla wrote:The most significant contribution in that one was how he helped me understand something that was confusing me. It's on page 212 if you have a copy handy.Mac_Guffin wrote:I was an atheist before Dawkins' God Delusion, but after reading it, it helped form many of my arguments.
Too bad, my image of Dawkins as a gentleman was skewed. It won't keep me from further learning from him, but my reading probably won't be as enjoyable as it once was... it's like a big elephant in the room.
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I would hate to see people discredit his scientific and his critical works on religion because of his personality. People read Hitchens even if they don't like him... but I fear that some people might not have the same standard for Dawkins. Dawkins, along with Dennett were considered the gentlemen of the four.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:The man's recent actions and personality are not to be confused with the man's scientific ideas. The first are based on emotion and reaction, the latter on meticulous, scientific study and rational evaluation. Too many seem to be forgetting that at this time.Mac_Guffin wrote:No, I usually just suck on the government tit... go to the library, that is. In fact, most of the books I actually own are old paperbacks that the library's giving away.Gawdzilla wrote:The most significant contribution in that one was how he helped me understand something that was confusing me. It's on page 212 if you have a copy handy.Mac_Guffin wrote:I was an atheist before Dawkins' God Delusion, but after reading it, it helped form many of my arguments.
Too bad, my image of Dawkins as a gentleman was skewed. It won't keep me from further learning from him, but my reading probably won't be as enjoyable as it once was... it's like a big elephant in the room.
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NO, his statement "What is it with atheists and cheese?"Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Discussion of the Design and Intentional Stances?Gawdzilla wrote:The most significant contribution in that one was how he helped me understand something that was confusing me. It's on page 212 if you have a copy handy.Mac_Guffin wrote:I was an atheist before Dawkins' God Delusion, but after reading it, it helped form many of my arguments.

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So many books have influenced me and given me fresh perspectives about the world.
However the books that probably influenced me most were the Eternal Champion books by Michael Moorcock. It really got me thinking a lot about our universe and our place in it. I started reading the Elric books when i was something like 9 so it was quite impressionable at the time.
Later on books like Hitchhikers etc and films like Monty Python's Life of Brian solidified my belief (that i had already formed when quite young) that life is too short to take seriously or worry about what happens after you die (ie: nothing). Just live life how you want to, enjoy it, and try to be good to others (yes, unfortunately that also includes the mother-in-law :pissed: )
However the books that probably influenced me most were the Eternal Champion books by Michael Moorcock. It really got me thinking a lot about our universe and our place in it. I started reading the Elric books when i was something like 9 so it was quite impressionable at the time.
Later on books like Hitchhikers etc and films like Monty Python's Life of Brian solidified my belief (that i had already formed when quite young) that life is too short to take seriously or worry about what happens after you die (ie: nothing). Just live life how you want to, enjoy it, and try to be good to others (yes, unfortunately that also includes the mother-in-law :pissed: )
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"The life of St Fancis of Assisi" Excellent book
now for some adventure:
INCA GOLD by Clive Cussler
and for a thriller 'Night Cage by AndrewHarper super super good, I wish that a movie would be made of it.
now for some adventure:
INCA GOLD by Clive Cussler
and for a thriller 'Night Cage by AndrewHarper super super good, I wish that a movie would be made of it.
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