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Re: Books that have shaped you

Post by JimC » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:50 am

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No, I really want to read it, except the Mister Dawkins set a guide-price of twenty-fucking-quid on it. Wayyy to encourage people to be interested in reason and science there!
Check out your local library?
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Re: Books that have shaped you

Post by Lozzer » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:51 am

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Lozzer wrote:

No, I really want to read it, except the Mister Dawkins set a guide-price of twenty-fucking-quid on it. Wayyy to encourage people to be interested in reason and science there!
Check out your local library?

They wouldn't have it.
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Re: Books that have shaped you

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:17 pm

Lozzer wrote:
JimC wrote:
Lozzer wrote:

No, I really want to read it, except the Mister Dawkins set a guide-price of twenty-fucking-quid on it. Wayyy to encourage people to be interested in reason and science there!
Check out your local library?

They wouldn't have it.
They will if you order it. You can get pretty much any book from a library if you put in an order. They will pull it in from another branch.
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Re: Books that have shaped you

Post by Lozzer » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:46 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Lozzer wrote:
JimC wrote:
Lozzer wrote:

No, I really want to read it, except the Mister Dawkins set a guide-price of twenty-fucking-quid on it. Wayyy to encourage people to be interested in reason and science there!
Check out your local library?

They wouldn't have it.
They will if you order it. You can get pretty much any book from a library if you put in an order. They will pull it in from another branch.

I could get a Bible easier.
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Post by orpheus » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:48 am

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Re: Books that have shaped you

Post by Reverend Blair » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:39 am

Well my Dad's university year book shaped me some...Mom used to spank us with it. It actually hurt less than a regular spanking, but it sure was a lot scarier.

Other than that though...the collected works of Hunter S. Thompson, Darwin's books, Ansel Adams zone system books (I learned a lot about writing how-to books and articles from those, as well as a lot about photography) all shaped me a lot.

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Post by Mac_Guffin » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:50 am

I was an atheist before Dawkins' God Delusion, but after reading it, it helped form many of my arguments. It also made me less vulnerable to many of the theist arguments that tend to drag laypeople like myself in.
The Bible is another book that helped shape my disbelief.

Nietzsche's Beyond Good & Evil and Thus Spoke Zarathustra are 2 others that were a major influence. I can't say I fully agree with or understand all of his philosophy, but much of it was a big factor in shaping my current self.

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Re: Books that have shaped you

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:53 am

Mac_Guffin wrote:I was an atheist before Dawkins' God Delusion, but after reading it, it helped form many of my arguments.
The most significant contribution in that one was how he helped me understand something that was confusing me. It's on page 212 if you have a copy handy.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:59 am

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Mac_Guffin wrote:I was an atheist before Dawkins' God Delusion, but after reading it, it helped form many of my arguments.
The most significant contribution in that one was how he helped me understand something that was confusing me. It's on page 212 if you have a copy handy.
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Re: Books that have shaped you

Post by Mac_Guffin » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:00 am

Gawdzilla wrote:
Mac_Guffin wrote:I was an atheist before Dawkins' God Delusion, but after reading it, it helped form many of my arguments.
The most significant contribution in that one was how he helped me understand something that was confusing me. It's on page 212 if you have a copy handy.
No, I usually just suck on the government tit... go to the library, that is. In fact, most of the books I actually own are old paperbacks that the library's giving away.

Too bad, my image of Dawkins as a gentleman was skewed. It won't keep me from further learning from him, but my reading probably won't be as enjoyable as it once was... it's like a big elephant in the room.

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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:32 am

Mac_Guffin wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Mac_Guffin wrote:I was an atheist before Dawkins' God Delusion, but after reading it, it helped form many of my arguments.
The most significant contribution in that one was how he helped me understand something that was confusing me. It's on page 212 if you have a copy handy.
No, I usually just suck on the government tit... go to the library, that is. In fact, most of the books I actually own are old paperbacks that the library's giving away.

Too bad, my image of Dawkins as a gentleman was skewed. It won't keep me from further learning from him, but my reading probably won't be as enjoyable as it once was... it's like a big elephant in the room.
The man's recent actions and personality are not to be confused with the man's scientific ideas. The first are based on emotion and reaction, the latter on meticulous, scientific study and rational evaluation. Too many seem to be forgetting that at this time.
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Re: Books that have shaped you

Post by Mac_Guffin » Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:43 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Mac_Guffin wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Mac_Guffin wrote:I was an atheist before Dawkins' God Delusion, but after reading it, it helped form many of my arguments.
The most significant contribution in that one was how he helped me understand something that was confusing me. It's on page 212 if you have a copy handy.
No, I usually just suck on the government tit... go to the library, that is. In fact, most of the books I actually own are old paperbacks that the library's giving away.

Too bad, my image of Dawkins as a gentleman was skewed. It won't keep me from further learning from him, but my reading probably won't be as enjoyable as it once was... it's like a big elephant in the room.
The man's recent actions and personality are not to be confused with the man's scientific ideas. The first are based on emotion and reaction, the latter on meticulous, scientific study and rational evaluation. Too many seem to be forgetting that at this time.
I would hate to see people discredit his scientific and his critical works on religion because of his personality. People read Hitchens even if they don't like him... but I fear that some people might not have the same standard for Dawkins. Dawkins, along with Dennett were considered the gentlemen of the four.

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Re: Books that have shaped you

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:47 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Mac_Guffin wrote:I was an atheist before Dawkins' God Delusion, but after reading it, it helped form many of my arguments.
The most significant contribution in that one was how he helped me understand something that was confusing me. It's on page 212 if you have a copy handy.
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NO, his statement "What is it with atheists and cheese?" :lol:
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Re: Books that have shaped you

Post by Loki_999 » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:11 pm

So many books have influenced me and given me fresh perspectives about the world.

However the books that probably influenced me most were the Eternal Champion books by Michael Moorcock. It really got me thinking a lot about our universe and our place in it. I started reading the Elric books when i was something like 9 so it was quite impressionable at the time.

Later on books like Hitchhikers etc and films like Monty Python's Life of Brian solidified my belief (that i had already formed when quite young) that life is too short to take seriously or worry about what happens after you die (ie: nothing). Just live life how you want to, enjoy it, and try to be good to others (yes, unfortunately that also includes the mother-in-law :pissed: )
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Re: Books that have shaped you

Post by kiki5711 » Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:20 pm

"The life of St Fancis of Assisi" Excellent book

now for some adventure:

INCA GOLD by Clive Cussler

and for a thriller 'Night Cage by AndrewHarper super super good, I wish that a movie would be made of it.

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