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by klr » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:01 pm
Clinton Huxley wrote:klr wrote:Gawdzilla wrote:klr wrote:Clinton Huxley wrote:The Donald Prothero book is excellent.
Just finished reading The Reluctant Fundamentalist by Mohsin Hamid, got Iran: Empire of the Mind by Michael Axworthy on the go and possibly will go for Castles of Steel: Britain, Germany and the the Winning of the Great War At Sea after that.
Ohhh ... have you read
Dreadnought as well by the same author?

I have them both. Tasty!
"You can't have one without the other"

At 800+ pages each, they definitely fall into the "tome" category...
"The bigger the better ...". I have so many door-step sized history books that I just don't know where to start right now ... :RAH:
Gawdzilla wrote:Clinton Huxley wrote:At 800+ pages each, they definitely fall into the "tome" category...
I read
Dreadnought while researching the German Naval Staff demographics and the "good old boy" club that sprang from it. I was neck deep in pre-WWI material at the time, and my prof was a German History specialist so I couldn't fake any of the material. I felt much put upon by that.

Hey, there's nothing wrong with being forced to know your material in depth. It builds character.

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by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:02 pm
klr wrote:Gawdzilla wrote:
I read
Dreadnought while researching the German Naval Staff demographics and the "good old boy" club that sprang from it. I was neck deep in pre-WWI material at the time, and my prof was a German History specialist so I couldn't fake any of the material. I felt much put upon by that.

Hey, there's nothing wrong with being forced to know your material in depth. It builds character.

I don't read German, so there was a bit more excitement for me in that.
And hey, guess what? The Germans discriminated against Jews even in uniform.
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by Clinton Huxley » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:05 pm
Just been flicking through Castles of Steel - you gotta love this bit:-
"...At 5:59pm....they emerged from a thick bank of mist to behold a terrible sight: the Grand Fleet spread before them upon the northern horizon. Twenty four British dreadnoughts and a host of cruisers and destroyers were 16,000 yards away..."
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:19 pm
Clinton Huxley wrote:Just been flicking through Castles of Steel - you gotta love this bit:-
"...At 5:59pm....they emerged from a thick bank of mist to behold a terrible sight: the Grand Fleet spread before them upon the northern horizon. Twenty four British dreadnoughts and a host of cruisers and destroyers were 16,000 yards away..."
"Und vhere vere ze Zepplins?"
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by Clinton Huxley » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:21 pm
Gawdzilla wrote:Clinton Huxley wrote:Just been flicking through Castles of Steel - you gotta love this bit:-
"...At 5:59pm....they emerged from a thick bank of mist to behold a terrible sight: the Grand Fleet spread before them upon the northern horizon. Twenty four British dreadnoughts and a host of cruisers and destroyers were 16,000 yards away..."
"Und vhere vere ze Zepplins?"
For you, Admiral Zilla, ze vor is ovah!
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:22 pm
Clinton Huxley wrote:Gawdzilla wrote:Clinton Huxley wrote:Just been flicking through Castles of Steel - you gotta love this bit:-
"...At 5:59pm....they emerged from a thick bank of mist to behold a terrible sight: the Grand Fleet spread before them upon the northern horizon. Twenty four British dreadnoughts and a host of cruisers and destroyers were 16,000 yards away..."
"Und vhere vere ze Zepplins?"
For you, Admiral Zilla, ze vor is ovah!
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by klr » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:27 pm
If you don't know much about the Battle of Coronel or the subsequent Battle of the Falkland Islands, then you're in for some good reading.
Admiral Sturdee: "German ships on the horizon? Then send the men to breakfast ...". Nelson would have approved.

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by Clinton Huxley » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:29 pm
klr wrote:If you don't know much about the Battle of Coronel or the subsequent Battle of the Falkland Islands, then you're in for some good reading.
Admiral Sturdee: "German ships on the horizon? Then send the men to breakfast ...". Nelson would have approved.

I know of them but have not read anything in depth. Love the above quote

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by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:36 pm
klr wrote:If you don't know much about the Battle of Coronel or the subsequent Battle of the Falkland Islands, then you're in for some good reading.
Admiral Sturdee: "German ships on the horizon? Then send the men to breakfast ...". Nelson would have approved.

Guaranteed to make sure some of the troops crap themselves during the battle. I love the logic.
Speaking which, anybody ever read C. S. Forester's
The Ship? British CLs against Italian CAs and BBs. Fair fight.
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by klr » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:04 pm
Clinton Huxley wrote:klr wrote:If you don't know much about the Battle of Coronel or the subsequent Battle of the Falkland Islands, then you're in for some good reading.
Admiral Sturdee: "German ships on the horizon? Then send the men to breakfast ...". Nelson would have approved.

I know of them but have not read anything in depth. Love the above quote

Hmmm ... who is that in your avatar? If I didn't know better ...

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by Clinton Huxley » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:05 pm
klr wrote:Clinton Huxley wrote:klr wrote:If you don't know much about the Battle of Coronel or the subsequent Battle of the Falkland Islands, then you're in for some good reading.
Admiral Sturdee: "German ships on the horizon? Then send the men to breakfast ...". Nelson would have approved.

I know of them but have not read anything in depth. Love the above quote

Hmmm ... who is that in your avatar? If I didn't know better ...

It's who you think it is....
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by klr » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:07 pm
Clinton Huxley wrote:klr wrote:Clinton Huxley wrote:klr wrote:If you don't know much about the Battle of Coronel or the subsequent Battle of the Falkland Islands, then you're in for some good reading.
Admiral Sturdee: "German ships on the horizon? Then send the men to breakfast ...". Nelson would have approved.

I know of them but have not read anything in depth. Love the above quote

Hmmm ... who is that in your avatar? If I didn't know better ...

It's who you think it is....
As in a very young John Arbuthnot Fisher? Or am I on the wrong track altogether?

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by Clinton Huxley » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:08 pm
klr wrote:Clinton Huxley wrote:klr wrote:Clinton Huxley wrote:klr wrote:If you don't know much about the Battle of Coronel or the subsequent Battle of the Falkland Islands, then you're in for some good reading.
Admiral Sturdee: "German ships on the horizon? Then send the men to breakfast ...". Nelson would have approved.

I know of them but have not read anything in depth. Love the above quote

Hmmm ... who is that in your avatar? If I didn't know better ...

It's who you think it is....
As in a very young John Arbuthnot Fisher? Or am I on the wrong track altogether?

In a way, you are not far off....
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:09 pm
klr wrote:As in a very young John Arbuthnot Fisher? Or am I on the wrong track altogether?

It's a minor functionary in the Navy Department.
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by Clinton Huxley » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:10 pm
Gawdzilla wrote:klr wrote:As in a very young John Arbuthnot Fisher? Or am I on the wrong track altogether?

It's a minor functionary in the Navy Department.

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