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by FBM » Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:10 pm
Rum wrote:Of course the Hindu and to some extent Buddhist notion of what it is to be a human being fits nicely with the movies' central idea. Many Hindus believe that we are all avatars of a universal 'soul' or spirit - Brahman - a universal unchanging reality; that we a splash of water lifted temporarily out of the ocean, but inevitably part of it and that humans forget this reality. Life to many Hindus is about realisation of this - of direct experience of it in fact.
I used to believe that sort of woo more or less...or tried to.
Uhm...pretty much....
just saw your new avatar!... the opposite of the Buddhist take on what being a human is, don't ya think? No-self...no essence that can be transferred from being to being...
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by Mysturji » Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:45 pm
Mr Anderson wrote:So why no thread on this brilliant film?
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by Mr Anderson » Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:51 pm
So who would have stayed in the Matrix given a choice? Is freedom really more important than comfort?
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by owtth » Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:58 pm
Mr Anderson wrote:So who would have stayed in the Matrix given a choice? Is freedom really more important than comfort?
Nasty pointy robot monsters looking to kill you, living in a fucking cave with a bunch of crusties, eating manky looking porridge everyday, not knowing if chicken really tastes like chicken?????
Plug me back in motherfucker!
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by Rum » Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:09 pm
FBM wrote:Rum wrote:Of course the Hindu and to some extent Buddhist notion of what it is to be a human being fits nicely with the movies' central idea. Many Hindus believe that we are all avatars of a universal 'soul' or spirit - Brahman - a universal unchanging reality; that we a splash of water lifted temporarily out of the ocean, but inevitably part of it and that humans forget this reality. Life to many Hindus is about realisation of this - of direct experience of it in fact.
I used to believe that sort of woo more or less...or tried to.
Uhm...pretty much....
just saw your new avatar!... the opposite of the Buddhist take on what being a human is, don't ya think? No-self...no essence that can be transferred from being to being...
I guess it goes back to the 'duality' debate. Some schools see the individual 'spirit' as illusory and the true nature of us all is to be part of an ocean of consciousness. Others that we are individual sparks which remain such. Rather pointless to debate however given that it is probably all wank.
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by Chinaski » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:25 pm
The Matrix has some of the worst dialogue I've ever had the misfortune of sitting through.
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by RuleBritannia » Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:47 pm
Humans as batteries? Don't people do research before writing a screenplay?
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by amused » Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:30 pm
It's science fiction, it doesn't have to work in real practice.
The first movie is an allegory for the awakening of the human psyche to the fact that you, and only you, are The One who can self-actualize. Lots of Jungian motifs throughout - the house with many rooms where he takes the pill is representative of the psyche's many facets, shapeshifters, rain and water as symbols of transformation, the sleeper who is unaware of the real world.
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by Mr Anderson » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:50 pm
RuleBritannia wrote:Humans as batteries? Don't people do research before writing a screenplay?
That did make me cringe as we were doing electricity and such in school at the time. Thing is they put a caviet in that something like a new source of energy allowed humans to function as blah blah blah
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