Okay, fuck the Times.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen ... 925781.ece

[Horwood Beer-Master]

Times = Murdoch



What do you expect?

[Drewish]

Wait, didn't they just label them for the purposes of this article?

[maiforpeace]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen ... 925781.ece

Why don't they tell everyone that the model who served as the model for the Adam statue at the Creation Museum works as an adult entertainer and a porno star?

[Drewish]

I think you missed the article that should REALLY piss you off:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen ... 928151.ece

[Pappa]

I think you missed the article that should REALLY piss you off:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen ... 928151.ece

Stephen Wang = Stephen Wanker

[charlou]

Their father, Brad Mason, is something of a celebrity within evangelical circles as the drummer for the popular Christian musician Noel Richards. Now a web designer and photographer, Mr Mason has been supplementing his income for years by providing photographs to agencies who sell them on to newspapers and advertising campaigns.

He said: “It is quite funny, because obviously they were searching for images of children that looked happy and free. They happened to choose children who are Christian. It is ironic. The humanists obviously did not know the background of these children."

He said that the children’s Christianity had shone through. “Obviously there is something in their faces which is different. So they judged that they were happy and free without knowing that they are Christians. That is quite a compliment. I reckon it shows we have brought up our children in a good way and that they are happy.”

My bold.

What is ironic is that, by calling his children 'christian', the father of these happy children is demonstrating Richard Dawkins's point about labelling children. It's not just about whether or not the children are happy children, it's about allowing them the freedom to develop critical thinking skills, to think for themselves, to assess the evidence, and to make up their own mind about religious belief. These children would not have had that freedom. Their parent/s would have indoctrinated their children into their own belief system and made christian ideology something the children must now eventually (if ever) overcome, by their own reason - reason which is thwarted by the insidious and self perpetuating christian indoctrination method of admonishing faith and eschewing critical thinking.

The children may or may not grow up to be happy adults ... Either way, they'll be living a lie, in ignorance of and denial about reality, and have minds more potentially inclined to make judgements and decisions based on belief and emotions, rather than facts and evidence.