German Catholics are revolting...

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German Catholics are revolting...

Post by JimC » Tue May 11, 2021 6:12 am

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-11/ ... /100130924
Germany's powerful Catholic progressives are openly defying a recent Holy See pronouncement that priests cannot bless same-sex unions, by offering such blessings at services in about 100 different churches this week.
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Re: German Catholics are revolting...

Post by pErvinalia » Tue May 11, 2021 7:21 am

Revolting? They're not that bad...
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JimC wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 6:12 am
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-11/ ... /100130924
Germany's powerful Catholic progressives are openly defying a recent Holy See pronouncement that priests cannot bless same-sex unions, by offering such blessings at services in about 100 different churches this week.
Interesting, if Francis is worth anything as a pope, I foresee a wave of excommunications.
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Re: German Catholics are revolting...

Post by NineBerry » Tue May 11, 2021 9:05 am

I am looking forward to a new 30 years war.

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Post by laklak » Tue May 11, 2021 8:03 pm

Revolting? They stink on ice.
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Post by JimC » Tue May 11, 2021 9:05 pm

Leaving aside the extremely amusing responses, it will be interesting to see how the Vatican reacts to this challenge to their authority. One considers the memory of Martin Luther (although I rather doubt he was gay-friendly...)

Perhaps the Pope will do something unexpected, like send in the Inquisition... :tea:
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Post by NineBerry » Wed May 12, 2021 1:21 am

Nothing will happen. Germans pay church tax. Lots of church tax. So a lot of money flows from Germany to the Vatican.

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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed May 12, 2021 2:07 am

I don't know. For some Christians the religion is the weakest it has ever been. They must feel anxious.

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Re: German Catholics are revolting...

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NineBerry wrote:
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Nothing will happen. Germans pay church tax. Lots of church tax. So a lot of money flows from Germany to the Vatican.
Meh. Just € 6.7 billion in 2019. That's barely enough to cover compensation for their priests' child-sex crimes. What's more, only 0.2% of that goes to the Vatican. The rest is used by the churches within Germany.
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Re: German Catholics are revolting...

Post by JimC » Wed May 12, 2021 2:21 am

I feel a schism coming on.

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Re: German Catholics are revolting...

Post by NineBerry » Wed May 12, 2021 8:23 am

Hermit wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 2:15 am
NineBerry wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 1:21 am
Nothing will happen. Germans pay church tax. Lots of church tax. So a lot of money flows from Germany to the Vatican.
Meh. Just € 6.7 billion in 2019. That's barely enough to cover compensation for their priests' child-sex crimes. What's more, only 0.2% of that goes to the Vatican. The rest is used by the churches within Germany.

The 0,2% is just the formal minimum license costs. A lot more money flows additionally. No one knows how much because neither the German churches nor the Vatican publish any transparent information on that. There are estimates that about 1% of paid church taxes ends in Rome eventually.

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Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 12, 2021 8:25 am

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Re: German Catholics are revolting...

Post by Svartalf » Wed May 12, 2021 10:05 am

NineBerry wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 8:23 am
Hermit wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 2:15 am
NineBerry wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 1:21 am
Nothing will happen. Germans pay church tax. Lots of church tax. So a lot of money flows from Germany to the Vatican.
Meh. Just € 6.7 billion in 2019. That's barely enough to cover compensation for their priests' child-sex crimes. What's more, only 0.2% of that goes to the Vatican. The rest is used by the churches within Germany.

The 0,2% is just the formal minimum license costs. A lot more money flows additionally. No one knows how much because neither the German churches nor the Vatican publish any transparent information on that. There are estimates that about 1% of paid church taxes ends in Rome eventually.
which, if the figures mentioned here are the ones to work with, means 67 million... Unless the rebel churches are actually a majority of the German catholics, Rome might not be deterred from asserting authority by the loss.
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