Scientific Proof Of God

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by superuniverse » Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:26 pm

Remember this:

"Karl Marx believed that a communist revolution could only begin in an already-industrialized capitalist state."

"Mao’s Peasant Revolution – A Really Cool Blog" http://www.reallycoolblog.com/maos-peasant-revolution/


Therefore, the revolution has not occurred YET...

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:16 pm

Hermit wrote:
Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:14 pm
rainbow wrote:
Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:33 am
superuniverse wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:48 pm

John Candy fails to mention the role of farmers which where central to the Chinese Revolution.
We those the farmers that were purged after they refused to be collectivised?
As was the case of the kulaks during and after the Russian revolution, only the rich farmers in China refused to be collectivised. In both instances the vast majority of farmers sided with the revolutionaries.
The story in Ukraine was somewhat less benign.

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by superuniverse » Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:00 am

TODAY THERE EXISTS NO ANTI-FASCIST POWER. ANTIFA, THE BROKEN REMNANTS OF THE AMERICAN COMMUNIST PARTY, POSSESSES NO POWER OR AUTHORITY. ANTIFA ALSO POSSESSES NO POSITIVE VISION, SUCH AS THE END OF WAGE LABOUR AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE COUNCIL POLITICAL SYSTEM. IT IS PURELY NEGATIVE IN THE SENSE THAT IT ATTEMPTS TO PREVENT THE STATUS-QUO FROM DESCENDING TO NEW LOW LEVELS OF BARBARISM RATHER THAN OFFERING A POSITIVE ALTERVATIVE VISION OF THE FUTURE. TRUE COMMUNISM EXISTS IN THEORY ONLY SINCE IT HAS BEEN COMPLETELY DIVORCED FROM PRACTICE DUE TO THE MISERABLE HISTORICAL SITUATION.

There exists no communist party of any consequence in the Western world. This is part of the theoretical and practical development of Marxism and must be incorporated into its concepts. This apparently negative situation itself is a sign of the moral and spiritual disintegration of capitalism. Society has become "one-dimensional" as predicted by Marcuse and the Frankfurt School.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

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Post by superuniverse » Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:12 am

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Go back to sleep. You fail to see what is taking place here, or the murderous future on the agenda. The future is murder.

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by superuniverse » Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:20 am

Who would think that some no-name website without SSL would become the source for the Revelation...

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by superuniverse » Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:03 am

It's a bit like catch the predator except we are all powerful....

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by Hermit » Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:54 am

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:16 pm
Hermit wrote:
Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:14 pm
rainbow wrote:
Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:33 am
superuniverse wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:48 pm

John Candy fails to mention the role of farmers which where central to the Chinese Revolution.
We those the farmers that were purged after they refused to be collectivised?
As was the case of the kulaks during and after the Russian revolution, only the rich farmers in China refused to be collectivised. In both instances the vast majority of farmers sided with the revolutionaries.
The story in Ukraine was somewhat less benign.
Horrific, actually. The 1932/3 famine was genocide by starvation. Some historians bicker about Stalin's intentions and the number of Ukrainians that were killed by the famine, but I think his intentions are plain to see. The famine was clearly and irrefutably a result of Stalin's directives. The dictator could not possibly have been unaware of the inevitable result of expropriating Ukraine's entire wheat harvest two years running. Following the famine he also gave regional commanders quota (NKVD Order No. 00447 being one of several) about how many thousand Ukrainans they were to execute. He was very pleased whenever any of those commanders exceeded their allotted quota. Stalin did not care which Ukrainians were to be executed (some victims were chosen by picking their names out of phone books), or why. He just wanted them dead. Any attempt to argue genocidal intention out of existence is sheer sophistry.

The number of deaths is difficult to determine even approximately, but after Russia unclassified the relevant archived documents in 2002, the minimum is 2.8 million deaths directly due to starvation. This is of course a vast underestimate of the tragedy. Ukraine's total population shortfall from the expected value between 1926 and 1939 estimated by demographer Jacques Vallin amounted to 4.566 million. Depending on the criteria used, Stalin may be responsible for the death of more than 7 million Ukrainians. Only a small percentage of them would have been kulaks.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by rainbow » Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:19 pm

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:16 pm
Hermit wrote:
Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:14 pm
rainbow wrote:
Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:33 am
superuniverse wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:48 pm

John Candy fails to mention the role of farmers which where central to the Chinese Revolution.
We those the farmers that were purged after they refused to be collectivised?
As was the case of the kulaks during and after the Russian revolution, only the rich farmers in China refused to be collectivised. In both instances the vast majority of farmers sided with the revolutionaries.
The story in Ukraine was somewhat less benign.
OK you missed a step. The very large landowners were thrown out and their lands redistributed. That was supported by the vast majority, yes.
At that stage they were not collectivised.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by superuniverse » Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:09 pm

Hermit wrote:
Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:54 am
L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:16 pm
Hermit wrote:
Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:14 pm
rainbow wrote:
Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:33 am
superuniverse wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:48 pm

John Candy fails to mention the role of farmers which where central to the Chinese Revolution.
We those the farmers that were purged after they refused to be collectivised?
As was the case of the kulaks during and after the Russian revolution, only the rich farmers in China refused to be collectivised. In both instances the vast majority of farmers sided with the revolutionaries.
The story in Ukraine was somewhat less benign.
Horrific, actually. The 1932/3 famine was genocide by starvation. Some historians bicker about Stalin's intentions and the number of Ukrainians that were killed by the famine, but I think his intentions are plain to see. The famine was clearly and irrefutably a result of Stalin's directives. The dictator could not possibly have been unaware of the inevitable result of expropriating Ukraine's entire wheat harvest two years running. Following the famine he also gave regional commanders quota (NKVD Order No. 00447 being one of several) about how many thousand Ukrainans they were to execute. He was very pleased whenever any of those commanders exceeded their allotted quota. Stalin did not care which Ukrainians were to be executed (some victims were chosen by picking their names out of phone books), or why. He just wanted them dead. Any attempt to argue genocidal intention out of existence is sheer sophistry.

The number of deaths is difficult to determine even approximately, but after Russia unclassified the relevant archived documents in 2002, the minimum is 2.8 million deaths directly due to starvation. This is of course a vast underestimate of the tragedy. Ukraine's total population shortfall from the expected value between 1926 and 1939 estimated by demographer Jacques Vallin amounted to 4.566 million. Depending on the criteria used, Stalin may be responsible for the death of more than 7 million Ukrainians. Only a small percentage of them would have been kulaks.
Consequences of the two stage theory of the construction of communism; it is delayed indefinetly until the productive forces are sufficently advanced, allowing for any means used to justify the ends, even the murder of millions. Also, this is what happens when communism is attempted in a country that has not gone through the entire stage of capitalist development, which Marx claimed was absolutely essential for a successful communist revolution. Russia was far too backwards industrially for communism to succeed. Marx also said communism would fail if it was tried in Russia.


While we wait for WW3...


Memory of these events has contributed to the fierce resistance of the Ukrainians...

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by superuniverse » Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:47 pm

REVOLUTIONARY THEORY CONCERNS ITSELF WITH TWO TASKS WHICH ARE BOTH THEORETICAL IN NATURE, SINCE WE ARE NO WHERE NEAR A REAL REVOLUTIONARY CRISIS: THE BOURGEOISIFICATION OF SOCIETY AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF SOCIALISM. THE HARM THAT HAS BEEN DONE ALSO TO THE NAMES SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM BY THE FAILED EXPERIMENTS IN THE USSR AND CHINA SEEMS IRREPARABLE. UTOPIA WOULD PERHAPS BE A MORE ACCURATE DESCRIPTION OF WHAT REAL SOCIALIST CONSTRUCTION WOULD LOOK LIKE, BUT THIS CONCEPT IS MASSIVELY RIDICULED BY THE BRAINWASHED MASSES OF CAPITALISM.

The two phase theory of communist development is based on the premise that the first stage (socialism) would continue capitalist development, except by eliminating private ownership and the state will take possession of everything and continue development of the industrial forces as a state capitalist society. Labour and skill are to be rewarded differently according to the quantity and quality of labour, exactly like capitalism. The chains that bind humanity to necessity are not severed but perpetuated in a new form. The second phase or the final communist society where each is to be given according to their needs and each is going to give according to their ability can be achieved only with a highly developed industrial and technological base where the basic needs of everyone can be met with a minimal amount of labour. Monopoly capitalism has already reached this point of development, but it would mean the end of many of the unnecessary luxuries and hoarded wealth that so many possess. The riches of capitalism would be redistributed to ensure that the basic needs of everyone are met without the need for alienated labour. The wealthiest people, the parasitic 1% and company, would be expropriated either voluntarily or by state force. It would also mean the eventual end of the nation state system.

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by rainbow » Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:52 am

superuniverse wrote:
Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:09 pm

While we wait for WW3...
Why do you take yourself so seriously?

...nobody else does.
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by JimC » Tue Aug 02, 2022 6:02 am

There is a major disconnect between the Marxist analysis of society and the crazed fundamentalist theist slavering at the thought of atheists burning in hell...
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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by superuniverse » Tue Aug 02, 2022 12:45 pm

rainbow wrote:
Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:52 am
superuniverse wrote:
Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:09 pm

While we wait for WW3...
Why do you take yourself so seriously?

...nobody else does.
Like we waited for the WTC to be utterly destroyed... it is no coincidence.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/un-nuclea ... -1.6538373

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Re: Scientific Proof Of God

Post by rainbow » Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:15 pm

superuniverse wrote:
Tue Aug 02, 2022 12:45 pm
rainbow wrote:
Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:52 am
superuniverse wrote:
Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:09 pm

While we wait for WW3...
Why do you take yourself so seriously?

...nobody else does.
Like we waited for the WTC to be utterly destroyed... it is no coincidence.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/un-nuclea ... -1.6538373
We in Africa don't have to worry about nukes, you in the West sort out your own problems.
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