Scientific Proof Of God

[JimC]

Well, the religious ones are now all toothless tigers, so bring it on!

[rainbow]

DO YOU LIKE PLAYING WITH TIGERS?

Is that what you call it when you wank?

I hope you know the angels are watching you.

[mistermack]

While we can rightly put down people who spout theories of gods, without proper evidence, the fact remains that there is stuff out there, not only that we don't yet understand, but that we probably can never understand.
Which is the reason we dreamed up gods in the first place.
The question of infinity keeps rearing it's head, and nobody has got any closer to it.
That's because if you get a billion light years closer to infinity, you aren't any closer to it.

And the question of why there is something, and not nothing. Which has infinity running all through it.

So there isn't a scientific proof of god. But there's also nothing anywhere near a disproof either.

It's down to the gaps. We can rightly laugh at the god of the gaps, and keep filling in the gaps in our knowledge. But the gaps are infinite, so good luck with that.

[Scot Dutchy]

You dont get it do you? We dont make any claims that god does not exist. We dont have to disprove anything. They make the claims they must provide the evidence. It is nothing about gaps. Another fallacy you have fallen for?
Our existence in this universe is of no consequence. Some people find that impossible to accept. We are gnat's piss. No better than bacteria.

[Svartalf]

I'd rather gnarfle the garthok, it it's all the same to you.

I don't know. Spotting the loonie was pretty easy.

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funny I own a twonnie (the one with the bear), but I think it's the first time for me to see an actual loonie.

[Alan B]

You dont get it do you? We dont make any claims that god does not exist. We dont have to disprove anything. They make the claims they must provide the evidence. It is nothing about gaps. Another fallacy you have fallen for?

I forget how many times I've pointed this out, here, on Ratskep & RDF.
Atheists have a non-belief in the existence of God, a god or gods. Theists believe that these ethereal beings exist. the onus is upon the theists to produce peer-reviewed evidence that these beings exist.
If that can be done then the atheist will lose their non-belief and the theist will no longer need a belief; in both cases to be replaced by evidential knowledge.

[Rum]

As long as you remember you are going to hell for not believing something for which there is no evidence!

[Scot Dutchy]

You dont get it do you? We dont make any claims that god does not exist. We dont have to disprove anything. They make the claims they must provide the evidence. It is nothing about gaps. Another fallacy you have fallen for?

I forget how many times I've pointed this out, here, on Ratskep & RDF.
Atheists have a non-belief in the existence of God, a god or gods. Theists believe that these ethereal beings exist. the onus is upon the theists to produce peer-reviewed evidence that these beings exist.
If that can be done then the atheist will lose their non-belief and the theist will no longer need a belief; in both cases to be replaced by evidential knowledge.

Oh I know Alan. I am also fed up. Usually the tactic is to enter the theological/philosophical world of what if. Which in my mind has wasted many a gig of memory space.

[Joe]

As long as you remember you are going to hell for not believing something for which there is no evidence!

Not to mention that hell itself is solidly hypothetical.

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[Brian Peacock]

Or merely hypothetically hypothetical?

[laklak]

Tide goes in, tide goes out, man.

[Alan B]

Hell & Heaven? I take a rather mystic view.
These two terms have been brought about by the complete misunderstanding of the 'original teachings' by those who wanted control and power over others: the priests and founders of religions.
By 'original teachings' I mean the unadulterated words of Buddha, Jesus, Krishna and others who perhaps have now been lost to history. As far as I'm concerned they seemed to have taught that there is a meditative mind-state that is 'heaven' and that to not live with this mind-state, that is, a 'normal' life, is 'hell'.
The use of these two terms has been twisted by religions to instil fear in the gullible and credulous with no other purpose except control and repression - quite the opposite of what Buddha, Jesus, Krishna and others seem to have actually taught. (Which upon examination appear to be similar in content if one takes into account their different cultures, teaching methods and language).

[JimC]

Hell is other people...

(except Ratz, of course!)

(well, most of them...)

[mistermack]

You dont get it do you? We dont make any claims that god does not exist. We dont have to disprove anything. They make the claims they must provide the evidence. It is nothing about gaps. Another fallacy you have fallen for?
Our existence in this universe is of no consequence. Some people find that impossible to accept. We are gnat's piss. No better than bacteria.

You need to brush up on your comprehension. I don't think you understood a single word of that post.

[rainbow]

Hell is other people...

(except Ratz, of course!)

(well, most of them...)

Heaven is goodbye to me and when it's time to go?