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by klr » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:14 pm
Top Polish tennis player Agnieszka Radwanska is in a spot of bother with the Polish church. She had been a spokesperson for the Church youth group, speaking out about her faith.
Then she went and appeared in an ESPN magazine shoot without a stitch on, and the Church predictably dumped her:
The shoot:
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/07/agniesz ... rsy/?sid=2
And the fallout:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/te ... e/2575549/
I guess this can classified as a win-win situation.
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by Brian Peacock » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:43 pm
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by Animavore » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:43 pm
Lol at The Church trying to act like it still has relevance in today's society
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by Xamonas Chegwé » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:47 am
I'd lob it!
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by Hermit » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:52 am
Animavore wrote:Lol at The Church trying to act like it still has relevance in today's society
It is very much relevant in today's Polish society. 89.8% of its population is Roman Catholic and 75% practicing Catholics.
I've had a look at some of ESPN's pictures published as part of its body series and find nothing but a celebration of the human body. Standouts to me where pictures of the 77 year old golfer, Gary Player and snowboarder Elena Hight.
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by Animavore » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:28 am
Hermit wrote:It is very much relevant in today's Polish society. 89.8% of its population is Roman Catholic and 75% practicing Catholics.
Just because people say they're Catholic doesn't mean they listen to what the church actually says, in fact often doing the complete opposite (divorce, abortion, pre-marital sex). The word "Catholic" gets bandied about a lot here, too (Ireland). It doesn't really mean shit.
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by Hermit » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:35 am
Animavore wrote:Hermit wrote:It is very much relevant in today's Polish society. 89.8% of its population is Roman Catholic and 75% practicing Catholics.
Just because people say they're Catholic doesn't mean they listen to what the church actually says, in fact often doing the complete opposite (divorce, abortion, pre-marital sex). The word "Catholic" gets bandied about a lot here, too (Ireland). It doesn't really mean shit.
It means a lot in Poland. 75% of Poles are practicing Catholics. Have you ever been in Poland? It's like stepping into a pre-reformation era village when it comes to matters religious, and believe me, the majority of Poles take their religion very seriously.
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by Animavore » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:43 am
Hermit wrote:Animavore wrote:Hermit wrote:It is very much relevant in today's Polish society. 89.8% of its population is Roman Catholic and 75% practicing Catholics.
Just because people say they're Catholic doesn't mean they listen to what the church actually says, in fact often doing the complete opposite (divorce, abortion, pre-marital sex). The word "Catholic" gets bandied about a lot here, too (Ireland). It doesn't really mean shit.
It means a lot in Poland. 75% of Poles are practicing Catholics. Have you ever been in Poland? It's like stepping into a pre-reformation era village when it comes to matters religious, and believe me, the majority of Poles take their religion very seriously.
Two of my friends spent two months in Poland with a Polish friend of ours going to large dance concerts and generally mucking about and they describe nothing like that. I've worked with many Polish men and women and have had Polish girlfriends. The Poles you describe sound like something out of a WW2 movie with the shawls and the destitution etc. I've only met one cross-wearing/kissing Pole so far. Most I know have little time for the church and three of them are outright atheists.
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by klr » Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:17 pm
I suspect the Poles are on the whole more religious than the Irish, but the nation as a whole is not quite as devout as it's made out to be.
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by Brian Peacock » Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:19 pm
Regardless of what %age of the country are proper, card-carrying Catholics, for the Church to get huffy at some tasteful photos celebrating the human form, when there's this stuff in the Vatican...
... is just plain hypocritical.
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by Tyrannical » Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:24 pm
That got me thinking, hardly anyone makes real (non-modern"art") statues anymore.
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by Brian Peacock » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:45 pm
What about this?
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by Tyrannical » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:49 pm
Case and point? Those look horrible compared to the Greco-Roman statues.
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by Brian Peacock » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:54 pm
But they're not idealised figures, but bronze casts of the artists body.
Then maybe some Anna Gillespie?
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by mistermack » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:08 pm
Nothing "modern art" about Madame Toussaude's.
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