Ignosticism or igtheism is the theological position that every other theological position (including agnosticism) assumes too much about the concept of God and many other theological concepts. The word "ignosticism" was coined by Sherwin Wine, a rabbi and a founding figure of Humanistic Judaism.
It can be defined as encompassing two related views about the existence of God:
The view that a coherent definition of God must be presented before the question of the existence of god can be meaningfully discussed. Furthermore, if that definition is unfalsifiable, the ignostic takes the theological noncognitivist position that the question of the existence of God (per that definition) is meaningless. In this case, the concept of God is not considered meaningless; the term "God" is considered meaningless.
The second view is synonymous with theological noncognitivism, and skips the step of first asking "What is meant by 'God'?" before proclaiming the original question "Does God exist?" as meaningless.
Ignosticism. Never heard of it.
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Ignosticism. Never heard of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignostic
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Re: Ignosticism. Never heard of it.
Ignorant gnostics?
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Re: Ignosticism. Never heard of it.
They worship some guy call Ignacio? 
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Re: Ignosticism. Never heard of it.
Maybe if we just ignore it, it'll go away?
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Re: Ignosticism. Never heard of it.
It could be used for ignoble purpose, if we tried real hard.
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It had nothing to do with nose hairs? I was wrong, then.
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Bunch of ignoramuses. 
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Re: Ignosticism. Never heard of it.
No smarter than igneous rocks.Bella Fortuna wrote:Bunch of ignoramuses.
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Sounds like a wordy way to atheism.
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It's the route I took.rachelbean wrote:Sounds like a wordy way to atheism.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Yeah, somewhat the way I took too. Wasn't knocking it, I'm just not sure it needs a nameRobert_S wrote:It's the route I took.rachelbean wrote:Sounds like a wordy way to atheism.
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Re: Ignosticism. Never heard of it.
Every world view needs a name!
Otherwise, how are we to know which heretics to burn?
Otherwise, how are we to know which heretics to burn?
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Ignosticism. Never heard of it.
Robert_S wrote:Every world view needs a name!
Otherwise, how are we to know which heretics to ignite?
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Who needs a meaning anyway, I'd settle anyday for a very fine view.
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Who needs a meaning anyway, I'd settle anyday for a very fine view.
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Re: Ignosticism. Never heard of it.
That's a burning question, isn't it?Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Robert_S wrote:Every world view needs a name!
Otherwise, how are we to know which heretics to ignite?
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Any definition is fine by me, as long as the ignostics will end up in hell with the rest of us. 
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