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Why is debating about religion supposed to be intellectual..
..activity?
I'm talking about this guy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lane_Craig
Not sure why anybody would pay his salaray. All the philosophy attached to religion was thought out by 500 years ago. There is no data in any case. There are complex thoughts of cause and effect and layers of this junk . But no data, no miracles.
I have no problem with ministers etc. They are there to treat little old ladies aflicted with the religion meme. They believe, there is no debate.
I'm talking about this guy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lane_Craig
Not sure why anybody would pay his salaray. All the philosophy attached to religion was thought out by 500 years ago. There is no data in any case. There are complex thoughts of cause and effect and layers of this junk . But no data, no miracles.
I have no problem with ministers etc. They are there to treat little old ladies aflicted with the religion meme. They believe, there is no debate.
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Re: Why is debating about religion supposed to be intellectu
It's just an evolutionary trait display showing how clever and rational they are.
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Re: Why is debating about religion supposed to be intellectu
Tero wrote:..activity?
I'm talking about this guy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lane_Craig
Not sure why anybody would pay his salaray. All the philosophy attached to religion was thought out by 500 years ago. There is no data in any case. There are complex thoughts of cause and effect and layers of this junk . But no data, no miracles.
I have no problem with ministers etc. They are there to treat little old ladies aflicted with the religion meme. They believe, there is no debate.

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Re: Why is debating about religion supposed to be intellectu
A lot of it goes on with supposedly 'atheist' boards. Talking about religion must never raise itself to the level of serious discussion. If you can't see that then your lost. 

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http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=202365Crumple wrote:A lot of it goes on with supposedly 'atheist' boards. Talking about religion must never raise itself to the level of serious discussion. If you can't see that then your lost.
Re: Why is debating about religion supposed to be intellectu
Arguing with fundies is like cheating to get in the special olympics. Even when you win they are still retarded
Outside the ordered universe is that amorphous blight of nethermost confusion which blasphemes and bubbles at the center of all infinity—the boundless daemon sultan Azathoth, whose name no lips dare speak aloud, and who gnaws hungrily in inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond time and space amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin monotonous whine of accursed flutes.
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Azathoth wrote:Arguing with fundies is like cheating to get in the special olympics. Even when you win they are still retarded
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I haven't thought about it that way. Still I hate the Olympics and running in circles like a track-hare is a special sport I'll leave too the experts, retard or 'not'.Azathoth wrote:Arguing with fundies is like cheating to get in the special olympics. Even when you win they are still retarded

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Crumple wrote:I haven't thought about it that way. Still I hate the Olympics and running in circles like a track-hare is a special sport I'll leave too the experts, retard or 'not'.Azathoth wrote:Arguing with fundies is like cheating to get in the special olympics. Even when you win they are still retarded
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Well, I have noting intelligent to add. I might have had, when I had these types of questions. Now I don't have any questions I would understand the answers to anymore.
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The 'debate' is had when the faithful attempt to convince others that a belief in Magic Tony (or some other nominated entity) is a perfectly noble, worthy and justified thing because Magic Tony is really real. Someone says, "Oh no it isn't!" and people like Craig say, "Oh yes it is!" The 'debate' then continues in this manner ad perpetua.Tero wrote:Not sure why anybody would pay his salaray. All the philosophy attached to religion was thought out by 500 years ago. There is no data in any case. There are complex thoughts of cause and effect and layers of this junk . But no data, no miracles.
I have no problem with ministers etc. They are there to treat little old ladies aflicted with the religion meme. They believe, there is no debate.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biola_UniversityTero wrote: Not sure why anybody would pay his salaray.
Then check out who pays his salary and you will be illuminated.
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Check out the syllabus for their "biology" degreehiyymer wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biola_UniversityTero wrote: Not sure why anybody would pay his salaray.
Then check out who pays his salary and you will be illuminated.
http://www.biola.edu/registrar/services ... OS0911.pdf



eta: although I would love to sit in on one of their critical thinking lectures. That would be a wonder to behold
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It does say genetics there. They must be carbon dating stuff all the way to the creation. It should work well, for less thatn 10 000 years.
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