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Why is debating about religion supposed to be intellectual..

Post by Tero » Wed Mar 02, 2011 2:57 am

..activity?

I'm talking about this guy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lane_Craig

Not sure why anybody would pay his salaray. All the philosophy attached to religion was thought out by 500 years ago. There is no data in any case. There are complex thoughts of cause and effect and layers of this junk . But no data, no miracles.

I have no problem with ministers etc. They are there to treat little old ladies aflicted with the religion meme. They believe, there is no debate.

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Post by Pappa » Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:53 am

It's just an evolutionary trait display showing how clever and rational they are.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:12 pm

Tero wrote:..activity?

I'm talking about this guy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lane_Craig

Not sure why anybody would pay his salaray. All the philosophy attached to religion was thought out by 500 years ago. There is no data in any case. There are complex thoughts of cause and effect and layers of this junk . But no data, no miracles.

I have no problem with ministers etc. They are there to treat little old ladies aflicted with the religion meme. They believe, there is no debate.
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:37 pm

A lot of it goes on with supposedly 'atheist' boards. Talking about religion must never raise itself to the level of serious discussion. If you can't see that then your lost. :coffeespray:
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:40 pm

Crumple wrote:A lot of it goes on with supposedly 'atheist' boards. Talking about religion must never raise itself to the level of serious discussion. If you can't see that then your lost. :coffeespray:
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=202365
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Post by Azathoth » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:15 pm

Arguing with fundies is like cheating to get in the special olympics. Even when you win they are still retarded
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:22 pm

Azathoth wrote:Arguing with fundies is like cheating to get in the special olympics. Even when you win they are still retarded
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Post by Atheist-Lite » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:29 pm

Azathoth wrote:Arguing with fundies is like cheating to get in the special olympics. Even when you win they are still retarded
I haven't thought about it that way. Still I hate the Olympics and running in circles like a track-hare is a special sport I'll leave too the experts, retard or 'not'. :laff:
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:31 pm

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Azathoth wrote:Arguing with fundies is like cheating to get in the special olympics. Even when you win they are still retarded
I haven't thought about it that way. Still I hate the Olympics and running in circles like a track-hare is a special sport I'll leave too the experts, retard or 'not'. :laff:
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Post by Tero » Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:02 am

Well, I have noting intelligent to add. I might have had, when I had these types of questions. Now I don't have any questions I would understand the answers to anymore.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:36 pm

Tero wrote:..activity?

I'm talking about this guy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lane_Craig
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Tero wrote:Not sure why anybody would pay his salaray. All the philosophy attached to religion was thought out by 500 years ago. There is no data in any case. There are complex thoughts of cause and effect and layers of this junk . But no data, no miracles.

I have no problem with ministers etc. They are there to treat little old ladies aflicted with the religion meme. They believe, there is no debate.
The 'debate' is had when the faithful attempt to convince others that a belief in Magic Tony (or some other nominated entity) is a perfectly noble, worthy and justified thing because Magic Tony is really real. Someone says, "Oh no it isn't!" and people like Craig say, "Oh yes it is!" The 'debate' then continues in this manner ad perpetua.
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Post by hiyymer » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:59 pm

Tero wrote: Not sure why anybody would pay his salaray.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biola_University

Then check out who pays his salary and you will be illuminated.

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Post by Azathoth » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:57 pm

hiyymer wrote:
Tero wrote: Not sure why anybody would pay his salaray.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biola_University

Then check out who pays his salary and you will be illuminated.
Check out the syllabus for their "biology" degree

http://www.biola.edu/registrar/services ... OS0911.pdf

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eta: although I would love to sit in on one of their critical thinking lectures. That would be a wonder to behold
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Post by Tero » Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:20 pm

It does say genetics there. They must be carbon dating stuff all the way to the creation. It should work well, for less thatn 10 000 years.

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