The New Atheists are Not Intellectually Bright

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The New Atheists are Not Intellectually Bright

Post by Rum » Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:50 pm

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Re: The New Atheists are Not Intellectually Bright

Post by Pensioner » Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:57 pm

I thought you were talking about me.
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Re: The New Atheists are Not Intellectually Bright

Post by Pappa » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:00 pm

Wut? :flowerboy:

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Post by Pensioner » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:02 pm

Pappa wrote:Wut? :flowerboy:
I like what your smoking :shiver:
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Re: The New Atheists are Not Intellectually Bright

Post by Pappa » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:09 pm

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Pappa wrote:Wut? :flowerboy:
I like what your smoking :shiver:
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Post by cowiz » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:10 pm

William Lane Craig - what a shit stick
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Re: The New Atheists are Not Intellectually Bright

Post by Pensioner » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:26 pm

Pappa wrote:
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Pappa wrote:Wut? :flowerboy:
I like what your smoking :shiver:
*Pappa passes the bong to Pen. *
Cheers mate, fucking hell thats good shit. :shiver:
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Re: The New Atheists are Not Intellectually Bright

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:58 pm

He talks shit but he is right about TGD. Personally, I wouldn't rate anything by Dawkins, Harris or Hitchens as "supreme intellectual fare" either - all three are merely preaching to the choir and to those already looking to join it - Dan Dennett on the other hand is both an outstanding intellect and a fine philosopher, I just wish someone had thrown his name into the hat.
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Re: The New Atheists are Not Intellectually Bright

Post by Rum » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:01 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:He talks shit but he is right about TGD. Personally, I wouldn't rate anything by Dawkins, Harris or Hitchens as "supreme intellectual fare" either - all three are merely preaching to the choir and to those already looking to join it - Dan Dennett on the other hand is both an outstanding intellect and a fine philosopher, I just wish someone had thrown his name into the hat.
I agree, with the exception of Hitchens. He knows his stuff - well his history and his 'method', though he is not a philosopher.

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Re: The New Atheists are Not Intellectually Bright

Post by Animavore » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:07 pm

Whoever labelled that video is misleading. WLC did not say that the "New Atheists" aren't intellectually bright at any stage.
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Re: The New Atheists are Not Intellectually Bright

Post by Ronja » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:10 pm

Rum wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:He talks shit but he is right about TGD. Personally, I wouldn't rate anything by Dawkins, Harris or Hitchens as "supreme intellectual fare" either - all three are merely preaching to the choir and to those already looking to join it - Dan Dennett on the other hand is both an outstanding intellect and a fine philosopher, I just wish someone had thrown his name into the hat.
I agree, with the exception of Hitchens. He knows his stuff - well his history and his 'method', though he is not a philosopher.
Yup. Dennett and Hitchens rock true, Dawkins and Harris just sorta rockabilly a bit (which can be cool enough on a hot day, of course).

And I still have not read anything by Ayaan Hirsi Ali! Woe is me! :cry:
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:12 pm

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Re: The New Atheists are Not Intellectually Bright

Post by Rum » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:12 pm

Animavore wrote:Whoever labelled that video is misleading. WLC did not say that the "New Atheists" aren't intellectually bright at any stage.
No, but he did say that associating the 'new atheists' with being bright was misleading because they aren't philosophers (and they are weak on their non specialist areas) and there are now some bright new philosophers who are also Christian.

It kind of misses the point though. You don't have to be a genius or a philosopher to realise there is almost certainly no god.

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Re: The New Atheists are Not Intellectually Bright

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:12 pm

Ronja wrote:And I still have not read anything by Ayaan Hirsi Ali! Woe is me! :cry:
I know someone who has. :levi:
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