Do Christians and other really understand their religion??
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Do Christians and other really understand their religion??
How about this interesting article and quiz from the New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/10/opini ... ef=general
I thought it quite thought provoking that, say, Catholics don't understand their services properly. Do you know anyone like this?
I didn't do well in the quiz either!
I thought it quite thought provoking that, say, Catholics don't understand their services properly. Do you know anyone like this?
I didn't do well in the quiz either!
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Just take a straw poll of people you know. Ask the religious folks what religion they are, then ask them to describe their beliefs.
9 out of 10 just believe in god, and "don't buy into EVERYTHING that their church teaches..."
They'll be sure that we all need to believe in god, but they reserve for themselves the right to pick and choose what tenets to hold to.....I always find that intersting...
Plus, they have no idea what the distinctions between their denomination and another denomination are. Most Christians are shocked to learn that the Catholic Bible, for example, has 5 extra books not found in the Protestant Bible.
9 out of 10 just believe in god, and "don't buy into EVERYTHING that their church teaches..."
They'll be sure that we all need to believe in god, but they reserve for themselves the right to pick and choose what tenets to hold to.....I always find that intersting...
Plus, they have no idea what the distinctions between their denomination and another denomination are. Most Christians are shocked to learn that the Catholic Bible, for example, has 5 extra books not found in the Protestant Bible.
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I read the Pew Research quiz the other week and scored 14/15 or something! I was a Catholic, though, and probably one of the better informed. Trans-substantiation was explained fully, so I knew I was "actually" eating ...wheels5894 wrote:How about this interesting article and quiz from the New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/10/opini ... ef=general
I thought it quite thought provoking that, say, Catholics don't understand their services properly. Do you know anyone like this?
I didn't do well in the quiz either!



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The Church of the Subgenius says "You don't use your brain to think about your religion!"
Religions may have a very loose association with the texts they are founded on. For many religion is the rituals, the community, the conceptual framework for morals, and a reassurance that things will turn out OK in the end. The theological bits are things that they pay someone else to worry about.
Religions may have a very loose association with the texts they are founded on. For many religion is the rituals, the community, the conceptual framework for morals, and a reassurance that things will turn out OK in the end. The theological bits are things that they pay someone else to worry about.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Most Christians don't realize the contradictions of the gospels or how apologists attempt to get past these issues. Conformity doesn't require you know about your religion just that you know how to say amen.
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You know, if I hadn't studied the bible, I might have decided to become a priest.
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got a thing for alter boys?Svartalf wrote:You know, if I hadn't studied the bible, I might have decided to become a priest.
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No, I was just pretty depressed at the time... no success with the girls, pretty grim professional prospects... I was thinking that if I was to spend a life of poverty and sexual frustration, I might give it a purpose... I'm still poor and frustrated but that's a mistake I did not make
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seems like chicken sexer at the poultry plant would have been the natural second choice, given your criteria
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Many Catholics protested when they stopped doing all masses in Latin. They preferred not to understand what the priest was saying it seems! How funking nuts is that|!?wheels5894 wrote:How about this interesting article and quiz from the New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/10/opini ... ef=general
I thought it quite thought provoking that, say, Catholics don't understand their services properly. Do you know anyone like this?
I didn't do well in the quiz either!
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Perfectly logical. Jesus spoke Latin, ergo it's more accurate.Rum wrote:Many Catholics protested when they stopped doing all masses in Latin. They preferred not to understand what the priest was saying it seems! How funking nuts is that|!?wheels5894 wrote:How about this interesting article and quiz from the New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/10/opini ... ef=general
I thought it quite thought provoking that, say, Catholics don't understand their services properly. Do you know anyone like this?
I didn't do well in the quiz either!

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Technically not so nuts when you notice that torah study is all that kept Hebrew alive for like 12 to 15 centuries, and that muslims consider that koran study must be conducted in the Original Arabic from a certain level up.Rum wrote:Many Catholics protested when they stopped doing all masses in Latin. They preferred not to understand what the priest was saying it seems! How funking nuts is that|!?wheels5894 wrote:How about this interesting article and quiz from the New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/10/opini ... ef=general
I thought it quite thought provoking that, say, Catholics don't understand their services properly. Do you know anyone like this?
I didn't do well in the quiz either!
It's the reflex of the Sacred language, that the old ways are closer to the deity... and it's not so wrong since the more you translate a body of work, the more slides from the original meaning (with its peculiar sets of denotations and connotations and whatnot).
Now, if you go calling the KJV crowd who go blathering that THEIR version is the true and inerrant word of dog and that whoever studies or worships from another version is a hellbound heretic a bunch of nutfucking cretins, I'll still agree with you 100%
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I think you miss the point here. The theocracy might feel closer to the 'truth' (LOL!) of their text but the slavish followers who are called on to do anything in the name of their gods are left in ignorance of the meaning of their 'holy texts' and it makes them even more prone to manipulation by their priests. Ever was it so, the evil bustards..Svartalf wrote:Technically not so nuts when you notice that torah study is all that kept Hebrew alive for like 12 to 15 centuries, and that muslims consider that koran study must be conducted in the Original Arabic from a certain level up.Rum wrote:Many Catholics protested when they stopped doing all masses in Latin. They preferred not to understand what the priest was saying it seems! How funking nuts is that|!?wheels5894 wrote:How about this interesting article and quiz from the New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/10/opini ... ef=general
I thought it quite thought provoking that, say, Catholics don't understand their services properly. Do you know anyone like this?
I didn't do well in the quiz either!
It's the reflex of the Sacred language, that the old ways are closer to the deity... and it's not so wrong since the more you translate a body of work, the more slides from the original meaning (with its peculiar sets of denotations and connotations and whatnot).
Now, if you go calling the KJV crowd who go blathering that THEIR version is the true and inerrant word of dog and that whoever studies or worships from another version is a hellbound heretic a bunch of nutfucking cretins, I'll still agree with you 100%
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