BBC4 Horizon: The End of God - Science v. Religion

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BBC4 Horizon: The End of God - Science v. Religion

Post by klr » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:49 pm

... starts in 10 minutes. That's 21:00 BST, or 20:00 Zulu time. :read:
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Re: BBC4 Horizon: The End of God - Science v. Religion

Post by Trolldor » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:49 pm

What is it?
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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Re: BBC4 Horizon: The End of God - Science v. Religion

Post by klr » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:54 pm

Hold on ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00tw1tl
As the Pope ends his visit to Britain, historian Dr Thomas Dixon delves into the BBC's archive to explore the troubled relationship between religion and science. From the creationists of America to the physicists of the Large Hadron Collider, he traces the expansion of scientific knowledge and asks whether there is still room for God in the modern world.
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Post by Trolldor » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:56 pm

Ta.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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Re: BBC4 Horizon: The End of God - Science v. Religion

Post by klr » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:59 pm

I'd watch it live and give an immediate report, but the TV is otherwise occupied for that hour. I'm recording it, and will watch it straight after ...
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Post by Sælir » Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:01 pm

klr wrote:I'd watch it live and give an immediate report, but the TV is otherwise occupied for that hour. I'm recording it, and will watch it straight after ...
Can you still give a report even though you don´t watch it live? :D
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Re: BBC4 Horizon: The End of God - Science v. Religion

Post by klr » Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:07 pm

Sælir eru einfaldir wrote:
klr wrote:I'd watch it live and give an immediate report, but the TV is otherwise occupied for that hour. I'm recording it, and will watch it straight after ...
Can you still give a report even though you don´t watch it live? :D
I suppose I could just make one up, but that wouldn't be very Christian, would it? :P

Will watch it in a minute ... :levi:
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Post by Sælir » Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:08 pm

:tup:
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Post by Rum » Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:17 pm

Just watched it - thus my absence here tonight. Nothing added to the 'debate' other than the new science developments are pretty mysterious and that even if science explains 'everything' it still won't provide a reason 'why'. Also the interesting point, (Dawkins dragged in to agree here) that our brains like the idea and thrive on the idea of a god.

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Re: BBC4 Horizon: The End of God - Science v. Religion

Post by klr » Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:26 pm

Rum wrote:Just watched it - thus my absence here tonight. Nothing added to the 'debate' other than the new science developments are pretty mysterious and that even if science explains 'everything' it still won't provide a reason 'why'. Also the interesting point, (Dawkins dragged in to agree here) that our brains like the idea and thrive on the idea of a god.

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Just watching it now - had to wait for the football to finish. :shifty:
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Post by PsychoSerenity » Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:27 pm

Yeah... what Rum said +1


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Re: BBC4 Horizon: The End of God - Science v. Religion

Post by klr » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:29 pm

It was a good program - better than I expected, given that there's only so much you can cram into a 60-minute program. It put forward all the arguments why religion had answers that science didn't have, and then demolished them one by one. Of course it fudged it right at the end by pointing out that the "why are we here?" question won't go away. Oh well ... :levi:

It will be on BBC iPlayer in due course - if you can deceive the IP check. Failing that, I'm sure it will appear on YouTube in due course. The BBC doesn't really seem to care about where its programs end up on the Internet ...
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Post by Sælir » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:31 pm

Thanks :biggrin:
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Re: BBC4 Horizon: The End of God - Science v. Religion

Post by Animavore » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:33 pm

I'm pretty sure this programme is a repeat. One of the others on RatSkep mentioned a part with Dawkins trying on a "God helmet" which I've seen before. It might already be out there on the webs.
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Re: BBC4 Horizon: The End of God - Science v. Religion

Post by klr » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:36 pm

... and it's always good to see Brian Cox. You know for sure where his sympathies lie. :hehe:
Animavore wrote:I'm pretty sure this programme is a repeat. One of the others on RatSkep mentioned a part with Dawkins trying on a "God helmet" which I've seen before. It might already be out there on the webs.
A lot of it is going through archives from old Horizon episodes over the past 40 years or so. It seems to be a new program, especially as some of the archive clips are from episodes earlier this year.

Anyway, here's the iPlayer link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00tw1tl
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