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Question on Humanism.

Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:20 pm

Can a Humanist also be an Anti-theist? :ask:
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Re: Question on Humanism.

Post by Rum » Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:51 pm

Is this a trick question?

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Re: Question on Humanism.

Post by Feck » Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:53 pm

I'm not a humanist..... but yes if you think theism is wrong .....
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Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Sat Apr 17, 2010 7:55 pm

Is this a trick question?
Hey, I'm still new to all this criticising religion stuff. :pardon:
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Re: Question on Humanism.

Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:12 pm

I always thought athism is just atheism. We don't believe in god, but I've become aware that there seems to be various levels of atheism.
Agnostics = I don't really believe, but I'll behave just in case.
Non-believer = I'll just keep quiet. They might punch my face.
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Anti-theist = "YOU'RE NOT GOING HOME IN A FUCKING AMBULANCE, because medical advancement is a sin, etc.!!"
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Re: Question on Humanism.

Post by maiforpeace » Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:52 pm

Deep Sea Isopod wrote:Can a Humanist also be an Anti-theist? :ask:
Yes and no?

My guess is that would depend on how anti-theist you are.

You can be actively antagonistic towards god and be a humanist. However if that antagonism towards god extended to those humans that believe in god, that's when I would say there is some murkiness about whether you can still be both. Good question.
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Re: Question on Humanism.

Post by AshtonBlack » Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:58 pm

"Don't hate the player, hate the game."

Or...

"I respect your humanity too much to respect your beliefs."

(Yes)

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Re: Question on Humanism.

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:11 am

maiforpeace wrote:You can be actively antagonistic towards god and be a humanist.
Sorry - but no. You can be actively antagonistic towards the belief in god and be a humanist - but you cannot be antagonistic to god itself without believing in it. :dono:
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Re: Question on Humanism.

Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:22 am

Seriously. Who gives a fuck? - They're all just labels anyway. I've never understood the need to categorise people like that. :dono:
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Re: Question on Humanism.

Post by RuleBritannia » Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:28 am

Deep Sea Isopod wrote:Can a Humanist also be an Anti-theist? :ask:
Not the theist humanists.
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Re: Question on Humanism.

Post by mindyourmind » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:20 am

Deep Sea Isopod wrote:
Is this a trick question?
Hey, I'm still new to all this criticising religion stuff. :pardon:
Until you feel more confident here is a good rule of thumb - when approached by a religious person, who asks you something like this, stand back one step, square your chest, look her / him in the eye and in a loud voice (regardless of where you may be) shout "FUCK OFF, YOU RETARDED PERVERT".

That makes all this categorising quite unnecessary :ddpan:
So you are saying that the reason why God created the universe, including millions of years of human and animal suffering, and the extinction of most species, is so that at the end of all of that a select few humans could be with him forever. I see.

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Re: Question on Humanism.

Post by AshtonBlack » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:41 am

mindyourmind wrote:
Deep Sea Isopod wrote:
Is this a trick question?
Hey, I'm still new to all this criticising religion stuff. :pardon:
Until you feel more confident here is a good rule of thumb - when approached by a religious person, who asks you something like this, stand back one step, square your chest, look her / him in the eye and in a loud voice (regardless of where you may be) shout "FUCK OFF, YOU RETARDED PERVERT".

That makes all this categorising quite unnecessary :ddpan:
A fair and measured response I thought.

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Re: Question on Humanism.

Post by Rob » Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:40 pm

Bri wrote:Seriously. Who gives a fuck? - They're all just labels anyway. I've never understood the need to categorise people like that. :dono:
The simple fact that we're human gives us a need to categorize things.

Humanism entails certain moral principles in regards to human life, human conduct and so on. It in no ways dictates your stance on religion so I don't think there is a confliction between the two.
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Re: Question on Humanism.

Post by FBM » Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:46 pm

Missed a category: Militant agnostic. I don't know and neither do you.
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Re: Question on Humanism.

Post by RuleBritannia » Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:01 pm

Bri wrote:Seriously. Who gives a fuck? - They're all just labels anyway. I've never understood the need to categorise people like that. :dono:
Humans categorise things, it's our way of understanding. In fact "people" is a category itself.
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