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Question on Humanism.
Can a Humanist also be an Anti-theist? 

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Re: Question on Humanism.
Is this a trick question?
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I'm not a humanist..... but yes if you think theism is wrong .....




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Hey, I'm still new to all this criticising religion stuff.Is this a trick question?

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I always thought athism is just atheism. We don't believe in god, but I've become aware that there seems to be various levels of atheism.
Agnostics = I don't really believe, but I'll behave just in case.
Non-believer = I'll just keep quiet. They might punch my face.
Humanists = I don't believe but lets all have a group hug
New atheism = You're wrong coz science says so.
Anti-theist = "YOU'RE NOT GOING HOME IN A FUCKING AMBULANCE, because medical advancement is a sin, etc.!!"
Agnostics = I don't really believe, but I'll behave just in case.
Non-believer = I'll just keep quiet. They might punch my face.
Humanists = I don't believe but lets all have a group hug
New atheism = You're wrong coz science says so.
Anti-theist = "YOU'RE NOT GOING HOME IN A FUCKING AMBULANCE, because medical advancement is a sin, etc.!!"
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Re: Question on Humanism.
Yes and no?Deep Sea Isopod wrote:Can a Humanist also be an Anti-theist?
My guess is that would depend on how anti-theist you are.
You can be actively antagonistic towards god and be a humanist. However if that antagonism towards god extended to those humans that believe in god, that's when I would say there is some murkiness about whether you can still be both. Good question.
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Re: Question on Humanism.
"Don't hate the player, hate the game."
Or...
"I respect your humanity too much to respect your beliefs."
(Yes)
Or...
"I respect your humanity too much to respect your beliefs."
(Yes)
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Sorry - but no. You can be actively antagonistic towards the belief in god and be a humanist - but you cannot be antagonistic to god itself without believing in it.maiforpeace wrote:You can be actively antagonistic towards god and be a humanist.

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Seriously. Who gives a fuck? - They're all just labels anyway. I've never understood the need to categorise people like that. 

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Not the theist humanists.Deep Sea Isopod wrote:Can a Humanist also be an Anti-theist?
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Until you feel more confident here is a good rule of thumb - when approached by a religious person, who asks you something like this, stand back one step, square your chest, look her / him in the eye and in a loud voice (regardless of where you may be) shout "FUCK OFF, YOU RETARDED PERVERT".Deep Sea Isopod wrote:Hey, I'm still new to all this criticising religion stuff.Is this a trick question?
That makes all this categorising quite unnecessary

So you are saying that the reason why God created the universe, including millions of years of human and animal suffering, and the extinction of most species, is so that at the end of all of that a select few humans could be with him forever. I see.
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A fair and measured response I thought.mindyourmind wrote:Until you feel more confident here is a good rule of thumb - when approached by a religious person, who asks you something like this, stand back one step, square your chest, look her / him in the eye and in a loud voice (regardless of where you may be) shout "FUCK OFF, YOU RETARDED PERVERT".Deep Sea Isopod wrote:Hey, I'm still new to all this criticising religion stuff.Is this a trick question?
That makes all this categorising quite unnecessary
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The simple fact that we're human gives us a need to categorize things.Bri wrote:Seriously. Who gives a fuck? - They're all just labels anyway. I've never understood the need to categorise people like that.
Humanism entails certain moral principles in regards to human life, human conduct and so on. It in no ways dictates your stance on religion so I don't think there is a confliction between the two.
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Missed a category: Militant agnostic. I don't know and neither do you.
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Humans categorise things, it's our way of understanding. In fact "people" is a category itself.Bri wrote:Seriously. Who gives a fuck? - They're all just labels anyway. I've never understood the need to categorise people like that.
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