This just in - pedo priests gay, not celibate!

[AshtonBlack]

He has to be to let this gobshite spout his drivel:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8618878.stm

Gay rights activists have criticised a Vatican official who sought to link homosexuality to paedophilia when commenting on child sex abuse scandals.
The UK's Stonewall group said it was astonishing gay people should still be dealing with "such an offensive myth".
Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone had said homosexuality, not celibacy, lay behind the child sex abuse scandals.
The cardinal, the Vatican's foreign minister, was speaking in Chile, where his comments were also condemned.
Cardinal Bertone was attempting to defuse the scandals currently afflicting the Catholic Church, which are largely cases of priests molesting children, mainly boys, the BBC's David Willey reports from Rome.
He added that some "surprising" initiatives regarding the sex abuse scandal would soon be revealed but did not elaborate.
'I have the documents'
Visiting the Chilean capital Santiago on Monday, Cardinal Bertone told a news conference: "Many psychologists, many psychiatrists have demonstrated that there is no relationship between celibacy and paedophilia but many others have demonstrated, I was told recently, that there is a relationship between homosexuality and paedophilia.
"That is true. I have the documents of the psychologists. That is the problem."
Patricio Walker, a Chilean senator who helped draft anti-paedophile laws, said he would like to see what scientific studies the cardinal was referring to because he thought he was wrong.
A Chilean communist MP, Hugo Gutierrez, told AFP news agency: "Celibacy does more damage to a human being than homosexuality, which is a freely made choice.
"I'm shocked by these words from a senior dignitary of the Church."
In Rome, the head of Italian gay rights group Gaylib, Enrico Oliari, said it was "worrying that the foreign minister of a state that occupies the heart of the Italian capital would use arguments that are considered passe even in the Third World".
Aurelio Mancuso, former president of a Italian gay rights association Arcigay, said: "The truth is that Bertone is clumsily trying to shift attention to homosexuality and away from the focus on new crimes against children that emerge every day."
The Pope's spokesman has indicated that Benedict may have a discreet private meeting with victims of clerical sexual abuse in Malta during his visit there this coming weekend.
The Pope should not feel he is under the pressure of the glare of the media if such a meeting takes place, Fr Federico Lombardi said, so that he can listen and communicate with them.
In Malta, 10 men have taken three Catholic priests to court for alleged child abuse in their youth and have asked to meet the Pope. There has been a high incidence of reported cases on the small Mediterranean island, whose inhabitants are mainly Catholic, our Rome correspondent notes.

Idiot.

[charlou]

Yes, because in an environment where men are expected to be celibate and where genders were kept separate we'd expect the resulting pedophilia to be heterosexual, would we?

[AshtonBlack]

Yes, because in an environment where men are expected to be celibate and where genders were kept separate we'd expect the resulting pedophilia to be heterosexual, would we?

Well indeed. One only has to look at prisons. I suspect the sodomy in there has got little to do with homosexuality, but more to do with power, loneliness and sexual frustration.

[sifaka]

I reckon the same thing!
I can see no other explanation for their putting their foot so deep in their mouth!

Keep up the good work!

[Rum]

At the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8618878.stm

Vatican comment on paedophiles draws gay groups' anger

Gay rights activists have criticised a Vatican official who sought to link homosexuality to paedophilia when commenting on child sex abuse scandals.

The UK's Stonewall group said it was astonishing gay people should still be dealing with "such an offensive myth".

Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone had said homosexuality, not celibacy, lay behind the child sex abuse scandals. The cardinal, the Vatican's foreign minister, was speaking in Chile, where his comments were also condemned.

Cardinal Bertone was attempting to defuse the scandals currently afflicting the Catholic Church, which are largely cases of priests molesting children, mainly boys, the BBC's David Willey reports from Rome.

He added that some "surprising" initiatives regarding the sex abuse scandal would soon be revealed but did not elaborate. 'I have the documents'

Visiting the Chilean capital Santiago on Monday, Cardinal Bertone told a news conference: "Many psychologists, many psychiatrists have demonstrated that there is no relationship between celibacy and paedophilia but many others have demonstrated, I was told recently, that there is a relationship between homosexuality and paedophilia. "That is true. I have the documents of the psychologists. That is the problem."

Patricio Walker, a Chilean senator who helped draft anti-paedophile laws, said he would like to see what scientific studies the cardinal was referring to because he thought he was wrong. A Chilean communist MP, Hugo Gutierrez, told AFP news agency: "Celibacy does more damage to a human being than homosexuality, which is a freely made choice.

"I'm shocked by these words from a senior dignitary of the Church."

In Rome, the head of Italian gay rights group Gaylib, Enrico Oliari, said it was "worrying that the foreign minister of a state that occupies the heart of the Italian capital would use arguments that are considered passe even in the Third World".

Aurelio Mancuso, former president of a Italian gay rights association Arcigay, said: "The truth is that Bertone is clumsily trying to shift attention to homosexuality and away from the focus on new crimes against children that emerge every day."

The Pope's spokesman has indicated that Benedict may have a discreet private meeting with victims of clerical sexual abuse in Malta during his visit there this coming weekend. The Pope should not feel he is under the pressure of the glare of the media if such a meeting takes place, Fr Federico Lombardi said, so that he can listen and communicate with them.

In Malta, 10 men have taken three Catholic priests to court for alleged child abuse in their youth and have asked to meet the Pope. There has been a high incidence of reported cases on the small Mediterranean island, whose inhabitants are mainly Catholic, our Rome correspondent notes.

[Pappa]

The thing that really doesn't make much sense about this is..... surely, if they were gay, they'd be having sex with gay men, right?

[Lion IRC]

If someone is advising the pope to meet with victims of sexual abuse "in private" they are "having a lend of him" - a practical joke maybe.
I would advise him not to meet with anyone unless there were at least 3 independent witnesses and a record of interview.
Lion (IRC)

[Lion IRC]

I hope every single person who assists pedophiles or puts the reputation of the catholic church above the safety of children is named and shamed and meticulously punished to the full extent of the law.

Not until the "salvaging" has ended and there are no more pedophiles in the RCC and maybe a lot of innocent priests have been scapegoated will the catholic church finally realise that it would have been better to shine a light on the darkness rather than covering up. A millstone really would have been much easier.

And everyone sitting around at the end of the purge, exhausted wondering what to do next can turn their attention to lesser, trivial problems like pedophile pornography being sold on the SECULAR internet day in day out. And people can start searching for all the pedophiles who fled the catholic church and headed for SECULAR organizations like the scouts, the police force, the militia, the schools, the sporting clubs, the child care centres, the youth hostels, etc, etc ,etc.

Lion (IRC)

[colubridae]

And everyone sitting around at the end of the purge, exhausted wondering what to do next can turn their attention to lesser, trivial problems like pedophile pornography being sold on the SECULAR internet day in day out. And people can start searching for all the pedophiles who fled the catholic church and headed for SECULAR organizations like the scouts, the police force, the militia, the schools, the sporting clubs, the child care centres, the youth hostels, etc, etc ,etc.

Lion (IRC)

Fuck me you guys never give up do you?

You never recognise just how appalling your shit is?

None of these organisations you name set themselves up as the ultimate moral authority.

None of them self-elect a chief ‘executive’ who was central to the cover up process.

If covering up hadn’t been ubiquitous ‘fleeing’ to other organisations wouldn’t have been such a viable option.

Anything rather that face the horrifying truth.

Why use a word like purge. Use a much more appropriate phrase like ‘bring to justice the pederasts/rapists of young children and co-conspirators to pervert the course of justice’

It’s just more theist spin, not a million miles from a ratzy cover-up.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

2 threads on the same report merged. plus now it's in News and Religion.

[AshtonBlack]

2 threads on the same report merged. plus now it's in News and Religion.

Cheers !!!

[Faithfree]

Well, what do ya know, the RCC have now distanced themselves from the gay remarks ....

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 872943.htm

Vatican distances itself from prelate's gay remarks

The Vatican has distanced itself from remarks by a top prelate linking paedophilia to homosexuality, saying "specific psychological or medical" assertions are not in the remit of Church officials.
..........etc....

[Ian]

I love seeing news like this. It doesn't anger me at all; quite the opposite, I'm downright amused. The Vatican further alienates large groups of people and thus continues to paint itself into a corner.

In my wildest dreams, we're witnessing the early stages of the death throes of the Catholic church.

[Faithfree]

I love seeing news like this. It doesn't anger me at all; quite the opposite, I'm downright amused. The Vatican further alienates large groups of people and thus continues to paint itself into a corner.

In my wildest dreams, we're witnessing the early stages of the death throes of the Catholic church.

It really beggars belief this archaic organisation has survived till the 21st century. Really - WTF!?!

[CookieJon]

Not until the "salvaging" has ended and there are no more pedophiles in the RCC...

Not until that RCC changes its archaic and unnatural policy of being staffed by frock-wearing virgins will that day ever come. This is not a one-off occurrence, it is a symptom of an intrinsically degenerate institution.

And everyone sitting around at the end of the purge, exhausted wondering what to do next can turn their attention to lesser, trivial problems like pedophile pornography being sold on the SECULAR internet day in day out.

And people can start searching for all the pedophiles who fled the catholic church and headed for SECULAR organizations like the scouts, the police force, the militia, the schools, the sporting clubs, the child care centres, the youth hostels, etc, etc ,etc.

Oh this thinly-veiled argument is coming up a lot recently from the apologists: "Hey the church isn't really that bad because there are paedophiles in other professions, too!"

1. Schools, police, military, sporting clubs, child-care centres and youth hostels don't make it official policy to conceal criminal activity from the police, and move offenders to another school, police station, etc. as a matter of course. The church, however, does, and that is what all the fuss is about in case you hadn't realised.

2. Schools, police, etc. aren't the ones proclaiming to be THE earthly conduit of the creator of the Universe and the absolute arbiters of morality, which just makes the extent of the hypocrisy so egregious in the case of the Catholic Crutch.

Why do you churchies ALWAYS have to try to turn the issue away from the church?? This issue is about the Church, and trying to dilute it by pointing out that the rest of society is not perfect either is just pathetic.