Could a God be the product of evolution?

[TheGreatGatsby]

I read The God Delusion and Dawkins said it was possible that a supreme being evolved as the product of evolution, therefore not being too complex to have come about by chance. He then says he does not believe this for a moment. He does not justify this latter statement, so why is it impossible for such a thing to have happened somewhere in our huge universe (or in another universe)

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I read The God Delusion and Dawkins said it was possible that a supreme being evolved as the product of evolution, therefore not being too complex to have come about by chance. He then says he does not believe this for a moment. He does not justify this latter statement, so why is it impossible for such a thing to have happened somewhere in our huge universe (or in another universe)

First, please, define "God" so we know what we're talking about. It's easier that way.

[TheGreatGatsby]

A designer who also listens to our prayers, etc. Of course, he did not create the world in seven days.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

A designer who also listens to our prayers, etc. Of course, he did not create the world in seven days.

Okay, would such a being violate the physical laws of the universe? If so, how? And as he/she/it evolved, how would their powers develop? Finally, and I've been waiting a long time to ask this, if they did evolve there would have been a time when they were half-God? "And what good is half a God?"

[Gawdzilla Sama]

One more question. Do you have the full Hitchens quote available, or should I provide it at this point. (Bit of a thread killer, that, so we might want to wait.)

[FedUpWithFaith]

A designer who also listens to our prayers, etc. Of course, he did not create the world in seven days.

I have little doubt there are many such "designers" in our universe alone. With sufficient computer power and knowledge we'll probably create our own worlds and beings someday right on a laptop for fun and amusement.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

A designer who also listens to our prayers, etc. Of course, he did not create the world in seven days.

I have little doubt there are many such "designers" in our universe alone. With sufficient computer power and knowledge we'll probably create our own worlds and beings someday right on a laptop for fun and amusement.

There was such a being when I was younger, or so I was told. He could grant prayers if you truly believed. I know I was a true believer, but he didn't answer my prayers. I got the red cowboy hat for Xmas instead of the white one I really wanted.

[FedUpWithFaith]

A designer who also listens to our prayers, etc. Of course, he did not create the world in seven days.

I have little doubt there are many such "designers" in our universe alone. With sufficient computer power and knowledge we'll probably create our own worlds and beings someday right on a laptop for fun and amusement.

There was such a being when I was younger, or so I was told. He could grant prayers if you truly believed. I know I was a true believer, but he didn't answer my prayers. I got the red cowboy hat for Xmas instead of the white one I really wanted.

Well, you not only had to believe in that fat guy but you had to be good all the time - because he was always watching you, even when on the toilet or masturbating. You probably got the wrong color hat for diddling your penis in the tub. I know I got dinged for that one.

Anyway, my prayers to to fat man had a decent batting average. You hardly ever get on base with Jesus.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

A designer who also listens to our prayers, etc. Of course, he did not create the world in seven days.

I have little doubt there are many such "designers" in our universe alone. With sufficient computer power and knowledge we'll probably create our own worlds and beings someday right on a laptop for fun and amusement.

There was such a being when I was younger, or so I was told. He could grant prayers if you truly believed. I know I was a true believer, but he didn't answer my prayers. I got the red cowboy hat for Xmas instead of the white one I really wanted.

Well, you not only had to believe in that fat guy but you had to be good all the time - because he was always watching you, even when on the toilet or masturbating. You probably got the wrong color hat for diddling your penis in the tub. I know I got dinged for that one.

Anyway, my prayers to to fat man had a decent batting average. You hardly ever get on base with Jesus.

With my father there was no problem being good all the time.

[FedUpWithFaith]

A designer who also listens to our prayers, etc. Of course, he did not create the world in seven days.

I have little doubt there are many such "designers" in our universe alone. With sufficient computer power and knowledge we'll probably create our own worlds and beings someday right on a laptop for fun and amusement.

There was such a being when I was younger, or so I was told. He could grant prayers if you truly believed. I know I was a true believer, but he didn't answer my prayers. I got the red cowboy hat for Xmas instead of the white one I really wanted.

Well, you not only had to believe in that fat guy but you had to be good all the time - because he was always watching you, even when on the toilet or masturbating. You probably got the wrong color hat for diddling your penis in the tub. I know I got dinged for that one.

Anyway, my prayers to to fat man had a decent batting average. You hardly ever get on base with Jesus.

With my father there was no problem being good all the time.

OK, so maybe the fat guy let you down. I say he's still a million times more reliable than our "Savior".

[Trolldor]

A God, by definition, can not have come about by Evolution. A God is a deity, a supernatural deity. Supernatural.
Beyond the Natural. Outside the scope of the natural.
Anything that comes about by a natural process is not a god. Just a creature.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

OK, so maybe the fat guy let you down. I say he's still a million times more reliable than our "Savior".

He was a major factor in my realization that there were no fancy boys out there waiting to do me favors.

[Azathoth]

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

Arthur C Clarke

Not a deity though and the evidence is lacking to suggest super-intelligent aliens as much as it is for a sky daddy

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

Arthur C Clarke

Not a deity though and the evidence is lacking to suggest super-intelligent aliens as much as it is for a sky daddy

Codicle to Clarke's Law: Magicians aren't gods, nor are they omnipotent or omniscient.

[FedUpWithFaith]

A God, by definition, can not have come about by Evolution. A God is a deity, a supernatural deity. Supernatural.
Beyond the Natural. Outside the scope of the natural.
Anything that comes about by a natural process is not a god. Just a creature.

It is not inconceivable that a God could arise from natural processes, though it is far fetched. There are believers in Digital Physics/Philosophy who think that a God arose from the same cellular automata that gave rise to everything that is, or, alternatively, could arise in some dimensions (leading to other universes) and not others. That God, in turn, could have played a role in creation without invoking any supernatural process. I'd argue that the term "supernatural" doesn't even make sense.