Scientific Proof Of God

[Brian Peacock]

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how about I tell you, Mr. Shermer, EVERYTHING YOU THINK ABOUT THE WORLD is *WRONG*

Why? How?

[pErvinalia]

Why do I waste time here?

To post Depeche Mode videos (for some unknown reason)?

[pErvinalia]

twatarseface

:coffespray:

[Brian Peacock]

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LOL... I also failed to mention this degenerate called FECK. I have a collection of stalkers here.

First, calling your fellow forum members names just because you have different opinions about things is a bit childish don't you think? .
Second, you came here voluntarily, and the people you're now calling stalkers were here already. If you danced naked in front of your bedroom window would you call anyone who saw you a voyeur?

[pErvinalia]

There is no argument. Why should there be? You cant argue with theists. The default is atheism. It is up to him to deliver the evidence. I dont make claims. Just prove scientifically the existence of his deity. That is simple or not?

Sure, but you made the claim that the universes are of no importance. You need to present evidence that there are multiple universes, and prove your claim that they are of no importance.

That they are of no importance is the null hypothesis. It's up to others to prove that it is of importance. I.e. it's up to theists to prove that God exists, not atheists to prove that God doesn't exist.

Would you know if you did not exist?

By definition, no. Or, more specifically, your question is nonsensical because there is no "me" if I don't exist. There is no "I" to know anything.

So how can you say that not existing is less important than existing. You can't possibly know, as you've articulated above.

[pErvinalia]

The usual patheticness.

I am not arguing. I dont have to. You dont argue with theists. They make the claims and let them produce the evidence.
If you think your life is important because of your existence who am I to tell you anything else. I dont have to convince you and why should I?

[pErvinalia]

The usual patheticness.

I am not arguing. I dont have to. You dont argue with theists. They make the claims and let them produce the evidence.
If you think your life is important because of your existence who am I to tell you anything else. I dont have to convince you and why should I?

But you made a claim, too. Yes, he makes a claim that there is a god or deity. But you made the claim that the universe has no importance, or that the universes (assuming there are others) are of no importance. That's your claim. You make claims and have to produce evidence.

I didn't ask you to convince me. You made the assertion that existence was of no importance. Nobody forced you to make it, but by the same logic of "claim requires evidence..." then your claim requires evidence too.

You can't prove a negative when we are talking about universal scales. The burden of proof lies with the person making a positive claim. - Russel's Teapot

[pErvinalia]

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[pErvinalia]

Forty Two is right SD - things are only as important as anyone thinks they are. Ultimately though of course when all is said and done and the universe is cooling on its low slow descent into blackness none of it matters. So you are both right!

However Sueruniverse is as wrong as one can get - posting movie trailers, for example, as evidence that atheists are wrong - I mean.

Leave the poor sap to it. Rational discussion isn't what he does,

If some theories are correct, and viewed from higher dimensions, all of our three dimensional, plus time, events happen all at once, then everything matters the same as everything else. It is what is.

Perspective is everything, though. Does the universe exist if we're not looking? http://discovermagazine.com/2002/jun/featuniverse

Well you are doing what you so often do - argue for the sake of it and to be bloody minded. Let's assume for a second that humans are the only ones with the capacity to attribute 'importance' to things in the universe, whether it be something like family or a big fuck off cluster of galaxies. If humans no longer exist then importance is simply not relevant. I'm aware of the consciousness bringing 'substance' to the universe of course - but let's leave that for a rather less ..visceral.. thread shall we?

Whales, dolphins and apes are probably all conscious too. They'll carry the universe flag after we are dust.

[pErvinalia]

So where's your scientific proof bud?

He's still trying to pass it out of his anus.

[pErvinalia]

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LOL... I also failed to mention this degenerate called FECK. I have a collection of stalkers here.

First, calling your fellow forum members names just because you have different opinions about things is a bit childish don't you think? .

Absolutely not.

[superuniverse]

Well SPEAK N DIE got it wrong. Apparently only "scientists" know how the universe operates.

[Hermit]

Checkmate, ATHEISTS!

SEE DOUBLE?

I see satire. Karl Coryat is an American writer, comedian, and musician. As a comedian under the pseudonym Edward Current, he makes YouTube satires of religious fundamentalism and politics, as well as serious videos demonstrating physics and criticizing the 9/11 Truth movement.

[Feck]

He seems to post video because he cannot actually argue without shooting himself in the foot .

Not so. I do it because I find the audio, visual, verbal demonstrations to be far more effective than words alone...

Sorry I was wrong..... He can shoot himself in the foot even when posting video.

[Rum]

So the words people say in the videos he posts are to be ignored and instead we are to focus on the moving images to understand his argument - his 'scientific proof of god'.

Makes perfect sense.