Scientific Proof Of God
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why pray to the being that put you in szhit in the first place and is not listening anyway? even assuming that you're schizoid enough to have a real voice in your head, it's not gonna help.
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The irony of Ray Comfort's version of the Atheist's Nightmare is that this is the world you will never have again for the rest of your lives...
- THE FALLACY HERE IS THAT THE MODERN BANANA HAS BEEN MODIFIED BY HUMANS!
and...
https://vimeo.com/124633463#t=0m0s
THE REAL ATHEIST'S NIGHTMARE
- THE FALLACY HERE IS THAT THE MODERN BANANA HAS BEEN MODIFIED BY HUMANS!
and...
https://vimeo.com/124633463#t=0m0s
THE REAL ATHEIST'S NIGHTMARE
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But you made a claim, too. Yes, he makes a claim that there is a god or deity. But you made the claim that the universe has no importance, or that the universes (assuming there are others) are of no importance. That's your claim. You make claims and have to produce evidence.Scot Dutchy wrote:The usual patheticness.
I am not arguing. I dont have to. You dont argue with theists. They make the claims and let them produce the evidence.
If you think your life is important because of your existence who am I to tell you anything else. I dont have to convince you and why should I?
I didn't ask you to convince me. You made the assertion that existence was of no importance. Nobody forced you to make it, but by the same logic of "claim requires evidence..." then your claim requires evidence too.
My response was to your claim. You made the claim, and I assured you that from my perspective existence was very important, because without it I would not exist. And, that's about the most important thing to me. Without me there is no me to think about and do stuff. Nothing in my life can be as important as that, except maybe trading my own existence for the existence of my wife and kids -- requiring my belief that their existence will outlast mine, which I think is a fair conclusion for me to draw.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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Now do you love your wife and kids enough that you want them to live for eternity? Is your love able to transcend their death?Forty Two wrote:But you made a claim, too. Yes, he makes a claim that there is a god or deity. But you made the claim that the universe has no importance, or that the universes (assuming there are others) are of no importance. That's your claim. You make claims and have to produce evidence.Scot Dutchy wrote:The usual patheticness.
I am not arguing. I dont have to. You dont argue with theists. They make the claims and let them produce the evidence.
If you think your life is important because of your existence who am I to tell you anything else. I dont have to convince you and why should I?
I didn't ask you to convince me. You made the assertion that existence was of no importance. Nobody forced you to make it, but by the same logic of "claim requires evidence..." then your claim requires evidence too.
My response was to your claim. You made the claim, and I assured you that from my perspective existence was very important, because without it I would not exist. And, that's about the most important thing to me. Without me there is no me to think about and do stuff. Nothing in my life can be as important as that, except maybe trading my own existence for the existence of my wife and kids -- requiring my belief that their existence will outlast mine, which I think is a fair conclusion for me to draw.
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Forty Two is right SD - things are only as important as anyone thinks they are. Ultimately though of course when all is said and done and the universe is cooling on its low slow descent into blackness none of it matters. So you are both right!
However Sueruniverse is as wrong as one can get - posting movie trailers, for example, as evidence that atheists are wrong - I mean.
Leave the poor sap to it. Rational discussion isn't what he does,
However Sueruniverse is as wrong as one can get - posting movie trailers, for example, as evidence that atheists are wrong - I mean.
Leave the poor sap to it. Rational discussion isn't what he does,
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Rum wrote:Forty Two is right SD - things are only as important as anyone thinks they are. Ultimately though of course when all is said and done and the universe is cooling on its low slow descent into blackness none of it matters. So you are both right!
However Sueruniverse is as wrong as one can get - posting movie trailers, for example, as evidence that atheists are wrong - I mean.
Leave the poor sap to it. Rational discussion isn't what he does,
I'm posting movies to show what is going to happen to atheists... They are not open to debate....
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I can't answer that question, because I do not know if living for eternity would be a good thing or a bad thing. Suffice to say the answer would be yes if they would enjoy it and be happy.
I do not think that eternal life is an option for humans. Also, as far as I can tell, my wish one way or the other is of little relevance to whether that is an option. I'm not in control of that.
I do not think that eternal life is an option for humans. Also, as far as I can tell, my wish one way or the other is of little relevance to whether that is an option. I'm not in control of that.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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BLASPHEMING BITCHES
I think she sums up the INSANITY of the atheist position quite well...
I think she sums up the INSANITY of the atheist position quite well...
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If some theories are correct, and viewed from higher dimensions, all of our three dimensional, plus time, events happen all at once, then everything matters the same as everything else. It is what is.Rum wrote:Forty Two is right SD - things are only as important as anyone thinks they are. Ultimately though of course when all is said and done and the universe is cooling on its low slow descent into blackness none of it matters. So you are both right!
However Sueruniverse is as wrong as one can get - posting movie trailers, for example, as evidence that atheists are wrong - I mean.
Leave the poor sap to it. Rational discussion isn't what he does,
Perspective is everything, though. Does the universe exist if we're not looking? http://discovermagazine.com/2002/jun/featuniverse
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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Fuck off. I'll debate what I want here buddy boy.superuniverse wrote:Rum wrote:Forty Two is right SD - things are only as important as anyone thinks they are. Ultimately though of course when all is said and done and the universe is cooling on its low slow descent into blackness none of it matters. So you are both right!
However Sueruniverse is as wrong as one can get - posting movie trailers, for example, as evidence that atheists are wrong - I mean.
Leave the poor sap to it. Rational discussion isn't what he does,
I'm posting movies to show what is going to happen to atheists... They are not open to debate....
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Well you are doing what you so often do - argue for the sake of it and to be bloody minded. Let's assume for a second that humans are the only ones with the capacity to attribute 'importance' to things in the universe, whether it be something like family or a big fuck off cluster of galaxies. If humans no longer exist then importance is simply not relevant. I'm aware of the consciousness bringing 'substance' to the universe of course - but let's leave that for a rather less ..visceral.. thread shall we?Forty Two wrote:If some theories are correct, and viewed from higher dimensions, all of our three dimensional, plus time, events happen all at once, then everything matters the same as everything else. It is what is.Rum wrote:Forty Two is right SD - things are only as important as anyone thinks they are. Ultimately though of course when all is said and done and the universe is cooling on its low slow descent into blackness none of it matters. So you are both right!
However Sueruniverse is as wrong as one can get - posting movie trailers, for example, as evidence that atheists are wrong - I mean.
Leave the poor sap to it. Rational discussion isn't what he does,
Perspective is everything, though. Does the universe exist if we're not looking? http://discovermagazine.com/2002/jun/featuniverse
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let him continue... he has no clue what is going on here... makes it more interestingRum wrote:Well you are doing what you so often do - argue for the sake of it and to be bloody minded. Let's assume for a second that humans are the only ones with the capacity to attribute 'importance' to things in the universe, whether it be something like family or a big fuck off cluster of galaxies. If humans no longer exist then importance is simply not relevant. I'm aware of the consciousness bringing 'substance' to the universe of course - but let's leave that for a rather less ..visceral.. thread shall we?Forty Two wrote:If some theories are correct, and viewed from higher dimensions, all of our three dimensional, plus time, events happen all at once, then everything matters the same as everything else. It is what is.Rum wrote:Forty Two is right SD - things are only as important as anyone thinks they are. Ultimately though of course when all is said and done and the universe is cooling on its low slow descent into blackness none of it matters. So you are both right!
However Sueruniverse is as wrong as one can get - posting movie trailers, for example, as evidence that atheists are wrong - I mean.
Leave the poor sap to it. Rational discussion isn't what he does,
Perspective is everything, though. Does the universe exist if we're not looking? http://discovermagazine.com/2002/jun/featuniverse

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and how the fork do you know those videos are truthful and correct, they are but human creations and can't properly render a reality no living man has ever experienced.superuniverse wrote:I'm posting movies to show what is going to happen to atheists... They are not open to debate....
plus, by publishing them, you de facto endorse them and can be called to answer for your support of this or that content...
an example, your recent video about that crazy lady who ranted about the Japanese earthquake... do you endorse that, because there have recently been nasty eathquakes in Italy, which still is one of the more devout Western states as well as being the capital of catholicism... what do you have to say to that, why would god punish a country where he's still believed in?
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I'm not arguing the sense of disputing or trying to win a debate.
These are thorny issues. When someone asks if X is important, what does that mean? Is importance a feature of X outside of the mind of an observer? Is there an "objective" importance, that is different from the subjective viewpoint of an observer? Is importance importance regardless of who is opining, or is importance only relevant if it is importance "to" someone?
I think when Dutchy is saying the universe is not important or the universes are not important, he's not likely referring to what one human being's opinion is of the particular universe in question. I suspect he's talking about some "greater" overarching importance which he is saying does not exist.
The theist thinks that such an "importance" exists, because they assign as the "buck stops here" overarching viewpoint to god. God says what is important. God makes even you and me "important" because we are key cogs in the wheels of God's divine plans. They like that. They view a universe without that to be "meaningless" and "devoid of purpose" and by extension, sad, lonely and bad.
I'm not really arguing for the sake of arguing. I'm discussing for the sake of discussing. A thread like this is as close as I get these days to sitting around a room with a bunch of friends in college passing a joint and saying..."wait wait wait.... what if the universe was really beer bottle shaped...?"
"whoooooaaahhhh...." [exhale]
These are thorny issues. When someone asks if X is important, what does that mean? Is importance a feature of X outside of the mind of an observer? Is there an "objective" importance, that is different from the subjective viewpoint of an observer? Is importance importance regardless of who is opining, or is importance only relevant if it is importance "to" someone?
I think when Dutchy is saying the universe is not important or the universes are not important, he's not likely referring to what one human being's opinion is of the particular universe in question. I suspect he's talking about some "greater" overarching importance which he is saying does not exist.
The theist thinks that such an "importance" exists, because they assign as the "buck stops here" overarching viewpoint to god. God says what is important. God makes even you and me "important" because we are key cogs in the wheels of God's divine plans. They like that. They view a universe without that to be "meaningless" and "devoid of purpose" and by extension, sad, lonely and bad.
I'm not really arguing for the sake of arguing. I'm discussing for the sake of discussing. A thread like this is as close as I get these days to sitting around a room with a bunch of friends in college passing a joint and saying..."wait wait wait.... what if the universe was really beer bottle shaped...?"
"whoooooaaahhhh...." [exhale]
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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