Dawkins on Alien Rubbish

[Magicziggy]

(Boy) George O'Dowd should weigh into this debate.
He was a contemporary of mine at school and was expelled for wearing black plastic bin liners.

[Exi5tentialist]

It does kinda look like a bin liner.

But that doesn't mean I or RD think that they are garbage any more than I think these saggy trousered kids who look like they cannot afford a belt are actually that skint.

Why does he use an expression that portrays them as garbage if he doesn't think they are?

Why do they dress in something that looks like a garbage container liner unless they think it's going to rain and they don't have proper rain gear?

That was kinda serious. I see people in bin liners often when there is a heavy rain on a day that started out bright and sunny. They do keep you dry and while people don't look their best, I've yet to say to myself: "That girl's wearing a garbage bag, she must be garbage."

But then he doesn't use language that portrays them as garbage. He uses language that portrays them as being portrayed as garbage. That is an important difference

And while we're at it, do you think the burka bears no resemblance to a large bin liner?

This picking and poking at all the little details in every off the cuff remark in search of something that someone somewhere could take offense to is the reason we can't have straightforward talk from politicians anymore.

Except, the only reason you've called raincoats bin liners (not a widely-used analogy to date) is to contrive a justification for Richard Dawkins's insult to muslim women.

[Tigger]

The Muslim dress code for women is designed to cover the female from so that weak willed (my interpretation) Muslim men won't feel themselves "forced" to assault and rape them. It's not supposed to look attractive, quite the contrary (according to the misinterpretation of the word "modest" by many Muslims), so it looks like a fucking bin liner. Literally. Nothing was said about the contents.

[Tigger]

It does kinda look like a bin liner.

But that doesn't mean I or RD think that they are garbage any more than I think these saggy trousered kids who look like they cannot afford a belt are actually that skint.

Don't they look fucking stupid? Here's a recent photo of a tosser I "happened" to have on my phone.

[Robert_S]

It does kinda look like a bin liner.

But that doesn't mean I or RD think that they are garbage any more than I think these saggy trousered kids who look like they cannot afford a belt are actually that skint.

Don't they look fucking stupid? Here's a recent photo of a tosser I "happened" to have on my phone.

I carried around a web belt for a week just waiting for the opportunity to give it away as a gesture of kindness. That was the week I didn't see a one of them.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Except, the only reason you've called raincoats bin liners (not a widely-used analogy to date) is to contrive a justification for Richard Dawkins's insult to muslim women.

Except that you haven't shown its an insult to Muslim women yet, you've simply asserted that because you like to argue.

[Bella Fortuna]

It does kinda look like a bin liner.

But that doesn't mean I or RD think that they are garbage any more than I think these saggy trousered kids who look like they cannot afford a belt are actually that skint.

Don't they look fucking stupid? Here's a recent photo of a tosser I "happened" to have on my phone.

I carried around a web belt for a week just waiting for the opportunity to give it away as a gesture of kindness. That was the week I didn't see a one of them.

Hey, but by the look of that photo they're having lots of babies, so you may be able to help out the next generation - by then they'll be waddling around with them around their ankles.

[Robert_S]

But here we're taking the piss about someone's clothing choice. Would we be bigots if the male was wearing his pants like that because he interpreted some old book of bollocks a certain way?

[Ronja]

But here we're taking the piss about someone's clothing choice. Would we be bigots if the male was wearing his pants like that because he interpreted some old book of bollocks a certain way?

Well played, well played indeed!

[Hermit]

Would we be bigots if the male was wearing his pants like that because he interpreted some old book of bollocks a certain way?

Would you please explain what you are getting at?

[Bella Fortuna]

Would we be bigots if the male was wearing his pants like that because he interpreted some old book of bollocks a certain way?

Would you please explain what you are getting at?

That this is all a load of pants?

[Robert_S]

Would we be bigots if the male was wearing his pants like that because he interpreted some old book of bollocks a certain way?

Would you please explain what you are getting at?

That it is a double standard to call someone a bigot for criticizing someone else's fashion just because the justification for the fashion statement comes from an interpretation of a book.

[charlou]

I reported a derail .. Tig, RobS and Bella's derail about the pants ... and babies .. suggesting a split to the pub ..

.. and this is what you've come up with? Trying to shoehorn it back into the discussion?

[Bella Fortuna]

[Robert_S]

A three post tangent is a derail on Rationalia now?

I will admit though, that I felt some urgency about getting my tangent back around to the main point after seeing your report.

If you really wish to ask the rest of the staff, I'll not complain about having those posts moved. Although Exi5 might raise an objection on the grounds of it being a case of "moderators using their powers inappropriately to manipulate the scope of discussions artificially"