What is secularism and why is it important?

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Re: What is secularism and why is it important?

Post by Hermit » Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:59 am

Exi5tentialist wrote:I therefore can't deduce from the references to your other work that you've given me what your rational response is to the 2 examples I gave above.
In the middle of the first paragraph of the blog article you'll find this definition: "Secularism is a neutral position favouring no one faith over another." Building applications will be considered on the basis of the building that is proposed to be constructed and people who are harassed, threatened with murder or potential or real victims of any other crime will continue to benefit from the police. There is nothing about secularism that would deny religious people the benefits afforded to non-religious people. Secularism is not about shutting out believers. It is about making a person's belief (or lack thereof) irrelevant to decision making.

And of course secularism in England is a bit fuzzy. The government is said to be a secular democracy, but religions are actually favoured in so many ways, among them being the 26 law makers sitting in the House of Lords who were never elected to be there. They are there by virtue of being Bishops. Among them is the tax exemption for all religious institutions. Among them are various special allowances made to Hindus Muslims and Sikhs.

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Re: What is secularism and why is it important?

Post by TheAtheistBiker » Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:22 am

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Exi5tentialist wrote:I therefore can't deduce from the references to your other work that you've given me what your rational response is to the 2 examples I gave above.
In the middle of the first paragraph of the blog article you'll find this definition: "Secularism is a neutral position favouring no one faith over another." Building applications will be considered on the basis of the building that is proposed to be constructed and people who are harassed, threatened with murder or potential or real victims of any other crime will continue to benefit from the police. There is nothing about secularism that would deny religious people the benefits afforded to non-religious people. Secularism is not about shutting out believers. It is about making a person's belief (or lack thereof) irrelevant to decision making.

And of course secularism in England is a bit fuzzy. The government is said to be a secular democracy, but religions are actually favoured in so many ways, among them being the 26 law makers sitting in the House of Lords who were never elected to be there. They are there by virtue of being Bishops. Among them is the tax exemption for all religious institutions. Among them are various special allowances made to Hindus Muslims and Sikhs.

Come back when you're done speaking ex recto, Exi.
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Re: What is secularism and why is it important?

Post by HomerJay » Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:18 pm

hey, Atheist biker, your essay got Essay of the Week over at the National Secular Society :cheer:

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Re: What is secularism and why is it important?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:23 pm

HomerJay wrote:hey, Atheist biker, your essay got Essay of the Week over at the National Secular Society :cheer:
Told you. :levi:
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Re: What is secularism and why is it important?

Post by TheAtheistBiker » Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:35 pm

HomerJay wrote:hey, Atheist biker, your essay got Essay of the Week over at the National Secular Society :cheer:
That's so nice. Thanks for the heads up. :dance:

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Re: What is secularism and why is it important?

Post by TheAtheistBiker » Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:46 pm

Just seen it in 'Newsline'.

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Re: What is secularism and why is it important?

Post by charlou » Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:42 pm

*looks* :coffee:



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Re: What is secularism and why is it important?

Post by Exi5tentialist » Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:53 pm

Seraph wrote:ex recto
No need to get defensive. I was trying to establish whether AtheistBiker means it when he says "I demand total separation of church and state". Obviously he doesn't mean it, because when a state is providing a planning permission service to a church, the two entities are in a relationship with each other - communicating, sharing ideas, negotiating - and are therefore not 'totally' separate. Fuzzy boundaries are inevitable I suppose.

Anyway congratulations to AtheistBiker on the National Secular Society award. I've never had an essay win an award from any organisation, let alone a right-wing, nationalist one. Well done.

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