Tolstoy's "My Confession": Where do you fit in?

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Which of Tolstoy's categories best fits you?

One: Ignorance, willful or otherwise
2
10%
Two: Epicureanism, chasing pleasure till the end
7
35%
Three: Suicide (No need to answer if you've already done this)
0
No votes
Four: Just hanging around to see what happens next
10
50%
Five: Bacon, cheese, etc., (but that's really a "Two", eh?)
1
5%
 
Total votes: 20

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Re: Tolstoy's "My Confession": Where do you fit in?

Post by Audley Strange » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:14 pm

Yeah yeah, beards, misery, a contempt for the state. Sounds like they all went to a 3rd rate liberal arts college.
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Post by Robert_S » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:25 pm

Audley Strange wrote:Yeah yeah, beards, misery, a contempt for the state. Sounds like they all went to a 3rd rate liberal arts college.
I'm reminded of this song:




Lyrics:
Trigger Warning!!!1! :
I want to be a mysterious woman
I want to write mysterious songs
I want everyone to wonder
what is she thinking about?
existentialism? nihilism? wrong
I am thinking about
defrosting my refrigerator
but I could get into mysterious mood
watch me ask the bartender
for a drink he cannot make
watch me order mysterious food
food even Julia Child
cannot pronounce right
from cookbooks that time has forgot
then maybe I will read
Crime and Punishment for fun
then again, maybe not

I want to be a mysterious woman
tantalize you with my come-hither stare
maybe it will work a little better
if you pretend I'm not wearing underwear
If you pretend I was never a Girl Scout
and I never learned how to twirl baton
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
I feel a mysterious song coming on
I think I hear I scream
I think I hear ice cream
melting all over
the rock hard bread
which is stuck to
the chicken parts
long since dead
they're in a cold box
within a cold box
within a warm box
(which is my room)
there's a ceiling
there's a floor
there's a wall
there's a window
look at the moon
it's a marble, it's a button
it's a sequin, it's a polkadot
stiched into the velvet sky
the pocket of Sir Lancelot
who is riding on Pegasus
who is fighting with the Pleiades
who is fighting Cassiopeia
who is fighting with Hercules
who is fighting with Betelguex
who is fighting with the Milky Way
that is stuck to the Bird's Eye Peas
that is stuck to the ice cube tray
that is stuck to the chicken parts
that is stuck to the rock-hard bread
hey, what am I doing here? I should be home defrosting my refrigerator instead

But I want to be a mysterious woman
I hate being so easy to read
hey, bartender, give me a light yeah, a Bud light
and a plate of pommes frites
is all I need.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Tolstoy's "My Confession": Where do you fit in?

Post by Audley Strange » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:41 pm

What a lovely mellow song.

I've often found that attempts at profundity are little more than absurd sophistry written with fake passion.
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Post by Robert_S » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:02 am

Audley Strange wrote:What a lovely mellow song.

I've often found that attempts at profundity are little more than absurd sophistry written with fake passion.
And bold simplifications founded in a lack of imagination.
This is what I found in people who were in the same position as myself through their education and manner of life.

I found that for people of my circle there were four ways out from the terrible condition in which we all are.
That there may be five, six, or perhaps seven hundred and thirty-eight ways out seems to have eluded him and his friends. I feel vindicated that I never actually got around to reading him.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Post by hadespussercats » Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:32 am

Tero wrote:I wanted to make Voltaire my coffee name, but gave up the first try. The Starbucks girl could not spell it.
For some reason, when people ask my name and I don't want to give it I always say, "Sheila."

:pardon:
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Post by JimC » Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:34 am

hadespussercats wrote:
Tero wrote:I wanted to make Voltaire my coffee name, but gave up the first try. The Starbucks girl could not spell it.
For some reason, when people ask my name and I don't want to give it I always say, "Sheila."

:pardon:
This, of course, indicates your secret (but totally understandable) desire to be an Aussie... 8-)
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Post by hadespussercats » Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:43 am

JimC wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:
Tero wrote:I wanted to make Voltaire my coffee name, but gave up the first try. The Starbucks girl could not spell it.
For some reason, when people ask my name and I don't want to give it I always say, "Sheila."

:pardon:
This, of course, indicates your secret (but totally understandable) desire to be an Aussie... 8-)
I don't know-- isn't that like calling myself "Dumb Broad"?
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Re: Tolstoy's "My Confession": Where do you fit in?

Post by JimC » Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:48 am

hadespussercats wrote:
JimC wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:
Tero wrote:I wanted to make Voltaire my coffee name, but gave up the first try. The Starbucks girl could not spell it.
For some reason, when people ask my name and I don't want to give it I always say, "Sheila."

:pardon:
This, of course, indicates your secret (but totally understandable) desire to be an Aussie... 8-)
I don't know-- isn't that like calling myself "Dumb Broad"?
:lol:
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Post by Robert_S » Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:33 am

hadespussercats wrote:
JimC wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:
Tero wrote:I wanted to make Voltaire my coffee name, but gave up the first try. The Starbucks girl could not spell it.
For some reason, when people ask my name and I don't want to give it I always say, "Sheila."

:pardon:
This, of course, indicates your secret (but totally understandable) desire to be an Aussie... 8-)
I don't know-- isn't that like calling myself "Dumb Broad"?
Or maybe you're saying you're Ready for the World! :{D
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Post by Jason » Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:37 am

Robert_S wrote:
MiM wrote:
hadespussercats wrote: Yeah, well. I don't see why atheists don't just kill themselves.

Seriously? It's hard to believe Tolstoy is as respected as he is, with a viewpoint I associate with fundie dimwits.
.:this:
A very nice boil down of this whole argument. Nuff said.
But he's got a Russian name and there are lots of pages per book, so it's DEEP!

I'm inclined to think from some short works and Crime and Punishment that he's more of a twat than a fucktard.
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Post by Robert_S » Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:45 am

Făkünamę wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
MiM wrote:
hadespussercats wrote: Yeah, well. I don't see why atheists don't just kill themselves.

Seriously? It's hard to believe Tolstoy is as respected as he is, with a viewpoint I associate with fundie dimwits.
.:this:
A very nice boil down of this whole argument. Nuff said.
But he's got a Russian name and there are lots of pages per book, so it's DEEP!

I'm inclined to think from some short works and Crime and Punishment that he's more of a twat than a fucktard.
:what:
Audley already pointed out how I confused the two Russians.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Post by Jason » Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:46 am

Oh. Well Dostoyevsky is brilliant.. though some of his work is boring as hell.

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Post by Robert_S » Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:56 am

Făkünamę wrote:Oh. Well Dostoyevsky is brilliant.. though some of his work is boring as hell.
He's still kind of a twat though. Just not dumb.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Tolstoy's "My Confession": Where do you fit in?

Post by Tero » Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:43 am

hadespussercats wrote:
Tero wrote:I wanted to make Voltaire my coffee name, but gave up the first try. The Starbucks girl could not spell it.
For some reason, when people ask my name and I don't want to give it I always say, "Sheila."

:pardon:
OK, I'll try Sheila next time. Or Shel?

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Post by hadespussercats » Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:59 am

Tero wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:
Tero wrote:I wanted to make Voltaire my coffee name, but gave up the first try. The Starbucks girl could not spell it.
For some reason, when people ask my name and I don't want to give it I always say, "Sheila."

:pardon:
OK, I'll try Sheila next time. Or Shel?
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